I don't see any difference with the current system right now. If you look at the list (http://gameme.lethal.zone/players/tf2), you will see that everyone in the top10 has atleast 15 days of connection time in their shelves. Yes, there may be some people with more connection time compared to their points but that's just because they never, and I really mean never play hale. The point is, with the current server status (lots of plugins, be they good or not), people don't want to play hale, just as Panromir said. And the only way to get more points is by playing hale. I'm not saying it should be like the old system where people like Comi are sitting on their unbreakable throne because he plays 3 times as much as the second person on the scoreboard, but people should just get more points for playing normally which would feel more rewarding (touching in on my post above). Please don't see this as hate towards you Jelly, I really damn appreciate all the hard work you put into these servers, trying to make the game more fun. But considering the facts as they are, it seems like the better option is to turn it down a bit, if not more
To be perfectly honest... I don't see why not have a point system of infinite gain... encourage people to play more to earn more.. they become regulars, they fill servers.. The point matter to them.. to us it's the player count.. On the other hand.. I remember the good old beginning when I was starting.. we had some sort of radio plugin which you could set volume of through menus and request songs that actually were played eventually depending on how many requests the dj took. I'd honestly like to see that, don't know why we don't have something like it. Jelly's doing fantastic work on everything he has done, and I'm pretty sure that will never change. The only improvement there could be is a review section for additions we make. Or maybe a simpler thing, having an update section/post which displays changes that were made, if you tell of everything you change whenever you change it, someone will test it eventually and give feedback on it. Will allow for improvements because it will be pointed out. Just an idea. As for changing 1 of the servers, I'd agree really. But prepare for all those people that complained before.. it will start all over.. Personal note: I've always wondered since the server had taunt crits & random crits on... why has the boss not gained any upgrades on his end, this is a straight up upgrade for players, ignore the whole 'high risk - high gain' with enough players you can hide and come out whenever. People like that plugin, as it utilizes some skill in finding a safe spot, but the boss would need something skill requiring aswell. To make this more fair though.. I'd say disable all toggle taunts.. leave only timed ones.. ever since hi5 came out.. it's been a straight up upgrade. But this is all just my opinion and suggestion. Don't rant because of it..
Nobody was really harsh to him. Jelly did nothing wrong really, and I hope in contrary to you he actually understood me in that. It was the lack of communication and the demand of VSH regulars for things that arent good for the mod itself. Couple that with a person who wants to improve the server but doesnt get any reasonable feedback really, and you get these problems. Again, can't blame jelly. Can't blame any single person.
Can't we create our own point system, since Game.me is a payed service? We should have the infinite point system for the sake of not getting punished for losing. I like the idea that we'd have two kinds of VSH servers. That way we could see which one of them is better. I agree to these poins. If we're going to modify the other VSH server, we should make an annotation about it on our Steam group and tell them that we ain't dead yet.
I think what panromir and pixel also mention here in the end (just summing it up) saxton 2 should be as it was (without the modifications) and let being hale earn more points (not punish for jumping and raging etc too) so that people can rack up a lot of points with being hale making it more of a profit to be hale (since you can win easier too) Saxton 1 should be used for hardcore players.. or something like that, i still prefer 1 over anything else.