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Rejected Banned on CSGO lounge?

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  1. mousey

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    Hi, so recently I got banned on csgo lounge (I guess my friend was trying to scam?). I got banned because I was on his lounge account (I was logged on to his csgo account on my browser because I was going to buy him something, so I guess when I went on csgo lounge, I was logged onto that too). So, I got banned for being associated with his account (When I really wasn't). I have over 500 trades on my account and wouldn't scam (especially because i'm starting to trade up and have been working my way up instead of scamming if you look at my previous trades). I would appreciate it if I got unbanned because I did not do anything wrong and I got banned because I accidentally logged onto his account...

    | steamname: mousey
    | steam3ID: [U:1:125362156]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:0:62681078
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198085627884
    | customURL:
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198085627884

    Why I got tagged:
    Because I am supposedly the alt account of a scammer.

    Why should should the tag get removed?
    It was not me who scammed (it was my friend). I logged onto his account from csgo lounge by accident (because I was on his steamcommunity acc at the time). I was not the one who attempted to scam, you can check my account to see if I even once tried to scam anyone (mousey acc). I have a bunch of trades that I have done as well as previous trades for me trying to go from nothing to a knife (you can check that too). I went from like 10 cents to 21 keys (why would I want to scam for all the work I put in? wtf).
     
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  2. Chride2k8

    Chride2k8 Not so custom title

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    Please refer to this -> https://lethal.zone/threads/how-to-appeal.22715/
    You have forgot your steamID block, can you please add that. Also, got anything to support your claims? -you must understand that we get that alot, it's a friend or it's my brother or neighbors or what ever...
     
  3. mousey

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    I fixed it, and how would I support my claim? I accidentally logged onto my friends account. If there is anything to support my claim, look at all the work I put onto my mousey account for csgo lounge... I went from nothing to a knife.. I'm not going to put all that hard work to waste. I understand that you must get the reason a lot, but I'm being honest. Why would I scam on my FRIEND'S account instead of mine? I know the consequences of scamming and such, and I was not prepared to get banned.
     
  4. mousey

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    Hello? Is anyone going to reply :(
     
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    A case like this is difficult to solve, I hope it will get resolved though :3
     
  6. DataStorm

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    Having access to that account makes you a legitimate alt account of that one. If you where really buying something for 'm, you would have done that with your own account, and just traded that to him.
     
  7. mousey

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    Having a friend's account info doesn't make it my alt account if I never use it. If I used it to trade/play games, I'd accept that it was my alt. Except, I DON'T USE IT (to trade/play games).
    Let me bring back my point. Why would I waste around 5 months of trading from nothing to 21 keys of hard work? That's legit stupid if anyone were to do that. If I do get unbanned (Hopefully I do), I assure you that there won't be any sort of scamming done on my account/ip because I AM NOT A SCAMMER and do not tend to become one.
     
  8. Yolbe

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    Sharing a Steam Account (even when you don't play) is not allowed and I wouldn't recommend doing it.
    That happened to me like 8 years ago after I gave my friend my cs:source account while I was on holidays.
    Chances are low but they might ban you.

    In my opinion you deserve the ban (nothing personal), but since I am not a trade admin, you will have to wait for the final decision of them.
     
  9. mousey

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    Yeah, I don't go on his account now, I know what will happen if I do (unfortunately). Also, why would I deserve the ban if I actually did nothing wrong? I understand the sharing part (I've acknowledged my mistake and will not make the same mistake again), but other than that, I'm completely fine.
     
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    That's like saying "Hey, I just stole this guy's items, but I will never do it again, can I go now?". You must understand trade admins (in general, not just in this community) get stuff like this all the time, be it friends, neighbours or family that logged themselves into the account in question. Most of them are sadly lying, just to get out of the situation. It may very well be that you're innocent, but as long as you can't prove it, you're considered a potential suspect and you can thank the internet for that.
     
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  11. mousey

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    I never stole any items though. Also, I'll try to prove it (I guess, I don't know how this will be proof, but i'll just go by what I already know).

    https://lethal.zone/threads/76561198165995414-duck.23543/ - This thread shows the information of the scammer (my friend unfortunatey) that was given by the user. The info that was given was;
    "mohsin haider
    3004 pendyass noaw
    3004 pendyass noaw
    saskatoon Saskatchewan s6mere
    Canada
    Phone: +1 5199540802"

    1. I do NOT live in canada, I live in the United States of America. I have NO WAY of getting a canadian paypal while being in the UNITED STATES. Proof: [​IMG]
    (You know it's my real IP because it says Hide your IP with VPN)

    How am I supposed to use/get a canadian paypal when in the united states?
     
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    - Hide IP with VPN advert will show anyhow, they want to sell it. Not that its helping anybody really. Having a VPN only get people associated with other people that may have more reasons of a darker nature to use such. Also, there aren't many around anymore that allow the Steam protocols, so Steam won't work over it etc. Which means those that use steam over such will often get linked.
    - I do know people get paypal "based" in other countries, Brazilians do this a lot to avoid huge fees. Unverified tho.
    - I know your IP's have been USA (around New York), and the other account been Canadian (Around Calgary). This was not part of why you where marked a alt of it.

    The problem is, you where able to use that account. That means that there is no way for us to discern you from that alt, for there is no reason to believe that at the time of the scam you didn't use that account. By you using/accessing that account, there is no way to separate you.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you need a Canadian IP in order to create a Canadian paypal. Also, how would I prove that I did not attempt to scam or did nothing wrong... I'll get the proof once I know what proof that i'd need to get.
     
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    You already said you had or even currently have access to that account. Even if you don't anymore, there is no way to ascertain you won't regain access to it again. Can't disprove what you already had. There is no way to find out if you are the "true" owner of an account or w/e. Just that by any practice currently held that this account is considered a alt of that one.
     
  15. mousey

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    I assure you that I do not have access to the account nor will I even THINK about regaining access to the account in the future. I can provide proof that I am the "true" owner to the account i'm using right now (email/steam information, but I would have to do that privately). Also, if I were to regain access to the account (WHICH I AM NOT), what would be the problem with that? (Seeing that it is already banned).
    I just want to trade up my keys to a knife man, I have not or will not even try to scam... I am a clean trader on the ONLY account that I use to trade (this one).
     
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    Did you even read what DataStorm wrote in his post? The problem isn't that you don't have (or want) to have access to the account, the problem is you HAD access to the account while the scam took place. And there no way (that I know of atleast) to prove that it wasn't you who was logged into the account at that time. I'm sorry to say, but you just gotta suck it up and wait until the admins decide if your statement can be trusted or not.
     
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    Not exactly. By confirming that he has been accessing that account, he showed he had permission to use / ownership of that account (there was no denying to that, I saw the linking evidence). This means that he can be considered to be a owner of that particular account. It also means he has enough information to gain access to that account in the future again by means of support ticket to steam support. Etc etc. For all purposes, this account is considered a alt of the scammer under SteamRep's rules. Any degree of "separation" he can "show" is useless.

    In the past the evidence was more limited, and then the story could explain the match on occasion, and appeals could be granted based on that. Examples include ISP's that put whole area's behind a forced proxy, where all those where showing to use that Proxy's connection etc. Those are however not happening often. Visits could be explained, other family members (took often a lot of research by a admin, for anybody can google a picture of 2 brothers or w/e)

    In this case... the story is "buying a item" for the scammer, said to be a "friend", while being logged into said "friend's" account in order to buy this. Which is highly unlikely. If I buy something for someone, I buy it, and I trade it to them. Its way more simple to do it that way then accessing someone else's account to do so and conduct "business" with it, while also dealing with the friends on the friends list that actually know the owner of the account etc and start to chat with 'm. It just doesn't add up.
     
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    Alright, well since there's practically no way that I can prove that I truly did not scam, I guess I will wait for the admins to decide rather than wasting time giving useless evidence.
     
  19. Chride2k8

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    Hello and sorry for the long wait. I can't put it in any other better way than what DataStorm already has and for those reasons I'll have to reject this appeal.

    -> You had access to the account.
    -> You also admitted having access to the other account.
    -> You can regain access at any point.
    -> Accounts shouldn't be shared with anyone no matter what, you should read this.
    ...
     
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