Great, Rules spam. I know I always misbehave and it's absolutely necessary to show me not to be a retard every single map again, but can you please add a close button just in case I'm not in the mood for losing because I can't switch weapons because the lovely buttons are locked? Thank you. (yes, i'm angry.) Edit: Replaced angry words by "lovely".
He has a point... And I can't switch weapons either when it's open. Annoying as *lovely*, a close button isn't such a bad idea.
indeed it's good it doesn't pop up every map but now i have to reconect every dam hour because god knows what valve fucked up this time...
indeed, we dont need that menu and we did fine without it... besides, couldnt we change the vote system to? because now i somthimes have a mapvote and i acidenatly push 1 or 2 when changing weapons... this leads to the fact that i dont vote for what i want AND i get killed for not being able to change my weapon... very anoying... we could do: 1: blank 2: yes 3: no
it does, it only pops-up the first time you connect. if your connection time is greater then 2 mins, you won't get the rules again on connect. For the admins here... there is a topic about this plugin in the private section. Not adding a close button is done intentionely to force people to read the rules. yes, you can't switch weapons during the time with 1 2 3 4, but mousewheel or last weapon used still work. I understand that having the menu each time you connect can be a bit frustrating for you regulars, but a lot of the players on our servers aren't regulars and new people come every day. By enforcing them to see the rules, people are made clear what they can & can't do from the start. They better do or otherwise we'll have to punish them if they are naughty boys. you can use !revote to get the menu again after voting.
In my opinion, if you add a close button, people can read it, but they won't be annoyed by it (like not being able to switch weapons and the text in the middle of the screen). Most probably close it asap, but they can't say that they didn't know or couldn't know the rules. So no people unhappy about a little annoying rules plugin, and still no problems about people not knowing the rules or what so ever. Also: last weapon used doesn't work for me (because of my config), and scroll wheel sucks.
i agree, it's only 20 seconds, what's the major issue? 95% of the time there isn't much action anyway in the first 20 seconds you are on the server, besides watching the teams, checking spawn & running out of it. It's not like we're forcing a game overlay to show for 20 seconds, you can still run around, you can use your weapons and everything else. The exit option is only visible if the menu is triggered later on or when an admin forces a player to read them. For the regular gamers, they join the server in the afternoon and play untill evening. They'll get the rules message once or twice. If you however rejoin each time to get a positive dkp score or something like that, well ye, then it's annoying but that's your own fault then. doesn't your config have different binds then aswell besides 1 2 3 4? Personally i use a gamepad with personal binds set-up so i don't have any issues with it. People playing with yghj instead wasd or zqsd won't have this "issue" aswell. (Yes i know a guy that plays with yghj to move) We might change the plugin in the future to not show to certain player groups, but this still has to be worked out.
yeah when i come to think about it haha what's 20 seconds when i spend more then 4 hours on the servers hahahaha :lol:
yes sure you can but that wont change the fact that ill be dead by then, and lots of people dont know that they can juse the !revote... sure it might be told in the bottum of the screen but how many people realy read to that? besides, why wasnt there a vote on this menu before it was added? i find it only fair that the other admins can help decide if we should add it.
The rules plugin is something that has always been there bartieboy. It just didn't work yet on the new servers (read since host change) We've made a new plugin after intense discussions between the staff members and made a plugin as the TC's saw fit.
Some things are larger than just you, bart and I don't get your yes/no/blank thing? you want to vote about whether this plugin should be kept?
no i want the first vote option to be blank so that people wont constantly make a wrong vote... and that !revote isnt very practical i think... i mean in the last minutes of the round you have to keep on fighting... no time to type stuff etc.
I do it all the time. it works fine imo, and blank on mapvote? you will never get a majority for a map that way. what if everybody votes blank? that won't work.
Well, you could set the keys for the mapvote to F1-F4, would solve the problem which bartie has. For the close button: It CAN be very annoying when you want to switch weapons and you can't due to the popup. Even if it happens only on rare ocasion.
Yeah I know it's 20 seconds, but still. Yesterday I connected, spawned demoman, stickiejumped to the front and bam I got a kritskrieg uber. I failed so hard with the scroll wheel that I was using my bottle to kill people with krits allthough I still had 4 pipes loaded. I don't really care só much about it, but it's still annoying sometimes, and also: are the rules THAT important that it needs to annoy regular players (I think we got a bunch of them) who get the message every time etc? But also new players, I've seen A LOT of people complaining about it ingame. A close button still doesn't effect the rules or any problems with that, right? If you just put the close at 9 or so.. My Q (for most people last weapon used), I edited it so that it only switches between primary and secondary weapon, and when using melee it switches to primary. When I need to melee I just press 3. My Q button also doesn't work yet when the rules just dissappeared, it seems that I have to scroll through my weapons 1000 times before it starts working.. Really weird bug :? So for me it still takes about 40 seconds before I'm able to play normally (Q is my most pressed button after W)