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Admin Abuse (?)

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2' started by Anonymous, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Hello there LZ Community,

    it seems you have got some admins on your servers who cant handle "micspamming". Your dear admin Fox kept on kicking me and another player called Vectus for playing very short clips on HLJD on the Saxton Hale server. Its ok that theres a voice restriction plugin running for letting people play only 20 secs a round maximum.

    Well, dear Fox kicked me several times for playing a 5 sec music clip and a 1 sec heavy clip as well. Reason from his side: Its annyoing him. Well, i started to explain that theres a voice restriction plugin running, and i guess its not running just for fun and no reason. But he only kept on warning me to kick me everytime i join. Actually i wasnt trolling at all, just trying to get an answer why he was kicking me several times for a few short clips. Usualy noone complains about sounds, im surely not the only person playing sounds on the server.

    The player called Vectrus also got kicked several times. I mean, if only Fox was complaining about it, he could muted me or Vectrus or even every single other player on the server.

    Well, please think about what admins you have on your servers, its a shame that i get kicked for some short clips. And the reason "micspamming" is hilarious, for a 1 sec clip surely not.

    Regards and have a good day, Colors
     
  2. Permzilla

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    How often were you playing this "one second clip"?

    In my opinion, playing a short clip over and over again is also micspamming.
     
  3. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    The restriction plugin is to make sure people don't spam that much. It does not mean you have to fill the 20 seconds each round start for instance. I myself don't mind a sound or 2, it's just part of the saxton server. But indeed don't spam the same sound over and over or do a 20 second long sound. It's a thin line and normally all is fine, naor, oksis, me, paper etc never really make a problem out of it, b.a.barracks sometimes mutes but that's it.

    We are actually bust with a wiki for general rules. Once that is in place both users and admins know the rules better.

    For now, just send him to me if he does it again or tell me on steam or irc.
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Na, was playing each for one single time, not more than once.

    Sure thing, i was enjoying playing on your server till that point. Maybe he just has a bad day, everyone has.

    Regards
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Hi.
    I just get ban for "ignoring admins".
    Well, i played some sounds and get kicked about 3 times from server, then little discuss with admin, ok, 20 minutes passed, next map. I played about 3 rounds and fourth played as demo. one time i blew myself by rocket in air and died by accident. Then, i get ban. Wtf? ignoring admins? i didnt speak with him for 20 minutes..
    that admin is Desr0w, or its same as Fox?? Also, last map he used word "fuc*ing". Isnt it breaking rule number 3?
     
  6. JaptorResus

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    You didnt play "some" sounds, you played one sound over and over again, that was quite annoying, I was present when you had a disagreement with that admin, names doesn't matter here.
    If he asks you to stop spamming one sound every 2 seconds, you should do that, especially when he kicks you three times (!) and you're still spamming sounds. The conslusion of not listening to admins is a ban of course, what do you expect?
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Japtor, thats not yesterday, thats today and u werent there. I stopped playing sounds and after 20 minutes from that he banned me
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Regarding me? Impossible, ive been playing 2 sounds once each on that map and very few a few maps ago.
     
  9. JaptorResus

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    Oh I see, then I apologize.
    But still, to annoy admins isnt quite recommendable, if you know what I mean ^^

    No Colors, I was talking to Vectus, I didnt see you playing sounds on the Hale server yet.
     
  10. Killvion

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    Alright you were kicked 3 times, does this mean you came back and got kicked instantly. Or did you come back, play the sounds again and then got kicked again?

    Also, this plugin gives you 20 seconds yes, because we don't want you to get kicked for playing a 1 second sound.
    This does NOT mean you are allowed to spam 20 seconds each round. If the admins think you are micspamming, and he warns you. Then mate, suck it up.

    Me myself hate the usage of sounds on the servers, and if you kept doing it, then I would have taken action myself.
     
  11. Panromir

    Panromir "10/10 amazing guy"

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    I guess Desr0w has to clear things up :p
     
  12. Anonymous

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    wow i wasnt spamming, i played sound "nope" that lasts 1 sec and got kicked. why admin cant just mute me? many players like these sounds...
     
  13. JaptorResus

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    You're expecting from admins that they are going to mute you client-side? Don't be ridiculous, admins have to take care of the whole server, an individual mute wouldnt solve the problem. Just stop when the admin tells you to stop, is that so difficult to manage?
    But discussing it on the forums without the admin who banned you is kinda pointless, so we have to wait for him I guess.

    I know most of the admins on this server (not Fox), they had their reasons to kick/ban you, I'm pretty sure, no offense.
     
  14. Pablosky

    Pablosky Potato supreme

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    Admins can mute server-side...
     
  15. JaptorResus

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    Yup, I know that :roll: , but he was talking about muting by opening your mute window ingame and mute him for yourself (client-side mute)... as an admin who is responsible for the server?
     
  16. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    Really need to update the rules for admins :)
     
  17. Alias

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    We can do that with the Wiki. And make sure admins have read it
     
  18. Anonymous

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    To Vectus: Sorry mate but I also think you should be a bit more restrictive with your mic. Just because we have 60 seconds limit doesn't mean you should fill the rest 59 (or 20) with noise, which i'm sure is annoying for most of the players. I personaly confirm that, for you and a player keinulauta a couple a days ago. I don't think making "farting" noises or sounding like a "goat bleat" is the best use of our voice communication system. And is totaly immature. Catch my drift?

    I think our admins took a good decision on punishing players who are annoying. After all it's the admins who have the job to make sure the game stays enjoyable for everyone. But we should get clear about the punishment - kicking or banning is way too much, a mute is a good start (in my opinion).
     
  19. B.A baramous

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    a mute is a good start indeed, except if you have to mute the player every round again or that he rejoins after you mute him.
    then imho i would kick or ban him for a day or 2.
     
  20. Anonymous

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    On my side, i just started using HLDJ on this server and played 2 single short sounds and got kicked twice without even being warned before. A thing that cant be in my eyes, i got my own counter-strike source community with 11 servers and i know how to handle admin. In my opinion, Fox just overreacted cause i played that two sounds after he was mad at Vectus for playing some sounds.
    Btw, Fox was the only one complaining, noone else did, so what does give him the rights to kick me?