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alltalk when dead..

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2' started by Snelvuur, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    Dunno about you guys, but this alltalk when dead, is really confusing. Not to mention that its sometimes too busy to hear others of your own team, because the other team is talking too.

    And, its confusing to new people, they think what? Alltalk? while it is not..

    You can also hear the other team saying what there about to do then at some point.. which ruins a bit of gameplay too..

    just my 2 cents, its a nice try but imho i think it should not be on the servers.
     
  2. Doelwit

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    Yeah heard more complaints, or confusing comments on it.
    I'd better take it out except on the arena server there it seems suitable.
     
  3. Anonymous

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    Thats true Doel.
    Seems a bit annoying to hear Moon talk on the other team, then suddenly be alive and can't hear her any more... ;)
     
  4. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    well you cant find out how it works in real life unless you tried it..
     
  5. Anonymous

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    Well, tbh, i like the whole "alltalk" thing. but it would be better if its on the whole time.
    It gives a more "social" aspect to the game.

    I like talking/listening to everyone chatter while playing the game... so you can comment straight away when someone put you on fire or blew your head off :p

    But it does take away a bit of the strategy aspect if everyone can hear eachother :D

    So if you go for social.. put it on the whole time (not just when dead)
    If you go for tactics and strategy... turn it off.
     
  6. blackout

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    I don't think Guarrands way. Alltalk completely takes out the social part of the game and replaces it with another social part of the game. The voicechat isn't intended to be something to talk about what funny things your cat has recently done but to give short advice ("SPY BEHIND YOU JOHNNY!!!!!!", "Let's go and über-wreck that tunnel base"). Alltalk makes such things annoying at its best (see #1), counter-productive at its worst (see #2: 1 pyro runs in the tunnel and gets ready to blow you away 8 times in a row). I'd be a lot more of a trashtalker if anyone could hear me, and I'd probably turn voicechat off after a few days because there's *always* someone speaking.
    Now on the dead allchat thing. First of all, it's confusing. I've seen a lot of players asking nervously "Allchat on??", I'm almost binding an explanation to a button on my keyboard. Those who don't ask simply leave the server because Allchat is on, or play balky until they find a server with teamtalk, or disable voicechat anyway. Now for the tactical part: I can hear what the enemy's up to, and when I respawn in 5 seconds I can really do something about it (see tunnel example: pick pyro, teleport).
    Personally, I never feel like talking to my opponents for one reason: it takes me out of my current chat environment. When I live I've got to say something to my team, I get shot suddenly, I don't have as suddenly something to say to my opponents (additionally, those who I'd have to speak to are usually still alive). Apart from that, what besides "nice shot" *can* there actually be said?

    tl;dr: No allchat.
     
  7. Anonymous

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    Since the living can't hear the dead it doesn't matter that the other team can hear what you're saying.
     
  8. Anonymous

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    KILL THE ALLTALK!!!
    Really if I wanted alltalk I'd go to alltalk servers. And I never go to any other server than lethal. :arrow: I don't need altalk.

    Social aspect: You can talk to half the ppl in the servers, your own team. If you want to talk to the other team join the other team. If you really wanna share, press Y. Especially when you're dead you can't get a typekill, so no problem typing.

    Strategic aspect: Well we all can imagine how the game is ruined by strategic alltalk, since you hear what's going on. If you wanna hear whats comming listen closely to footsteps and voices, works for me. I really like to use voice chat for stragetic purposes, and alltalking is just darn stupid at that point.

    plz keep it teamtalk only imo. Maybe the ability to individually choose for alltalk, like you can choose between Y and U when typing? If thats possible of course.
     
  9. Anonymous

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    i'm confused guys .... all this knowing tactics with alltalk on .

    in the couple of years that i play tf-2 i have never NEVER heard that my team in dead mode talked about tactics . in those 15 secondes it is always "lol" "bad luck mate" etc. etc.

    its confusing ..yes , but every new change is confusing at the beginning .
    but if most of ya guys dont like we just remove it .
     
  10. Anonymous

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  11. Anonymous

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    dont like it.. if you all wanna talk, just use teamspeak or something..
     
  12. Anonymous

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    If you're dead the living can't read your message... Alltalk is fine as is now.
     
  13. Doelwit

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    deadalltalk is off , gone , finito ;)
    except for server4.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    great news :D well server 4 is about to die anyways ( :cry: ) so that won't harm all that much
     
  15. Anonymous

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    WHy dont u make server 4 a Highlander server?
     
  16. Anonymous

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    sounds pretty appealing to me aswell but i have no idea on the succesrate for it
     
  17. Doelwit

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    i think it will only be a succes of lot's of players are on it otherwise pretty hard to manage.