This topic is still in progress, more info coming Just wanted to make this topic about the recent pyro update. Although the archievements are a lot easyer then the medic, i still want to make this topic for all you guys that need help with getting there archievements. Note: ignite achievements do NOT work on other pyros Arsonist: Destroy 50 Engineer buildings. fifty buildings are a lot to destroy. If you play tf2 often you already know where everybody is building his stuff. In my oppinion this archievement is easy if you have a uber on you and your the attacker. The last capture point is always full of sentry's/teleports/dispensers. *Hint: When the map begins, start sneaking around the defenders. Most of the time you can find plenty of teleports at the spawn. If you destroy them and hide, you can easly take out a few buildings without dieing. Attention Getter: Ignite 100 enemies with the flare gun. At this moment i dont know what the flare gun is. But to get this archievement you need to unlock the flare gun first. Baptism by Fire: Force 10 burning enemies to jump into water. The only problem with this map is that you need a map with water in it. Goldrush/Dustbowl and gravelpit don't have any water in it. the biggest change to get this archievent is in the map 2forts. Why? because there is a big brigde with lots of water. Just hide on the enemy side and what until there is comming a spy/engi/demo out of the enemy building. They will automaticly jump into the wtaer. BarbeQueQ: Cause a dominated player to leave the server. Really nice archievment from valve. Why? because who doesnt love it when somebody is disconnecting you own. anyway.. you only need 1, so its really easy. Offcourse there is a lame way to get this one.. just ask a friend to disconnect if you dominate him. But we arent lame Burn Ward: Ignite 3 medics that are ready to deploy an Uber-charge. I think you wont need this instruction. But just spray and pray. there are so many medics that didnt deploy there uber, so the changes are big you have this archievement in no time. Camp Fire: Kill 3 enemies in a row, all within the same area. 1 word, crits. Everybody hates them if they got killed by it. But this is a good change to kill 3 enemies in a row. The bigest change of succes is for the defending team. Get behind the enemy and start spaying. This one is actually hard for the attackers, because 9 out of 10 you wont make to ignite 3 defending guys. Clearcutter: Kill 6 people with your axe in one life. At this point i dont know if you need to kill them by axe only. If not, use your flamethrower first and then axe them. This way you can also get your Combined Fire archievement Combined Fire: Use your shotgun to finish off 20 players you've ignited. This is one of the archievements you must get in time. Although its not a hard one if you want this archievement. Just take your flamethrower and spray around you. If somebody is running away go after him, with offcourse a shotgun! Controlled Burn: Ignite 50 enemies capturing one of your control points. This one is for the defenders. The archievement doesnt say kill. So burn baby burn! If the final capture point is getting captured, just spray and pray and i know you will lite atleast a few players on fire. Do this a few maps long and you complete the archievement. Cooking the Books: Ignite 5 enemies carrying your intelligence. You cant also get this one by playing goldrush/gravelpit/dustbowl. Just play 2fort and camp your ass at the intelroom. i'm sure there are some scout rushing in and that is the change to burn those m*th*r f*ck*rs Dance Dance Immolation: Kill 3 enemies while they're taunting. This one is actualy hard. Why? because you need to kill them. Most of the time your lucky to kill a enemy that is taunting. Anyway... same as the disconnect, you can easly lame this one by asking a friend to press the G button. If you see the animation, just burn them to dead! Dead Heat: Kill an enemy in the same second that he kills you. Dont try to get this archievement. Just walk to a pyro and start a 1 vs. 1 battle. just be sure to have full health, because pyro's dont have afterburn. This way if your dead the other pyro is stop burning. So basicly if your dead and he is not, you wont get this archievement. Firefighter: Kill 500 enemies. I think this is, beside Pyromancer and Fire Chief, the last archievement your getting. 500 is a lot! just play often pyro.. *hint.. get this one before the next update, otherwise you wont be playing pyro anymore Firewall: Ignite 5 Spies who have a sapper on a friendly building. This one is a defending archievement. Maps like castle are really good to get this one. Just hang around the last capture point in the first stage. I know for sure that there are 5 spy's trying to sap a sentry that is build there. btw. You need to kill the spy AFTER he placed the sentry.. but BEFORE the engineer kills the sapper Firewatch: Ignite 10 snipers while they are zoomed in. Lesson 1: how do you spot a sniper? easy, just look in the back for a guy that is standing still. If you see one, i'm sure its a sniper zoomed in. Because there focusing on 1 points its easy to get close to them. But dont walk in there line of sight. If they see you they proberly will unzoom. Fire and Forget: Kill 15 players while you're dead. 15 isnt a lot. Just run to a small group and spray and pray. You will kill a few guys before your dead (good for the 500 kills), but you have a big change of killing another one after you dead. Fire Chief: Kill 1000 enemies beside Pyromancer, i think this is the hardest one. kill 1000 enemy's. With a average of 20 kills in 1 map, you need atleast 50 maps to get this one. anyway.. if you got this one i know you almost have your pyromancer archievement, because if you kill 1 dude that has 100 hp. Then if you kill 1000 guys you did 100000 damage. that's 1/10 of what you need Freezer Burn: Provide enemies with freezecam shots of each of your taunts. Kill a enemy and make sure they see a screenshot of your taunt... so all you have to do is kill a dude and press you 'G' key. This way they are seeing a screenshot of you taunts. btw.. you have more then 1 taunt Got A Light?: Ignite an enemy Spy while he's flicking a cigarette. i'm not sure, but a spy has a taunt where he is smoking a sigaret. But him while he is doing that... A lucky shot or you planned this one with a friend of your. Hotshot: Kill a Soldier with a reflected critical rocket. Your new flametrower has a new feature.. you can bounce of rockets. Just bounce one back to the soldier, Make sure its a crit rockets. Hot on Your Heels: Kill 50 enemies with your flamethrower, from behind. Ask dawg for this one. I know he can easly tell you how to rape a enemy from behind... nu just kidding.. I dont need to explain this one. If you have troubels doing this one.. try a sneaky way around and go back to rape them all in the back. Make sure there DEAD.. so no spray and pray, because you wil end up dead without killing anyone Hot Potato: Reflect 100 projectiles with your compressed air blast. The new altfire (right mousebutton) of your flametrower can now bounce of rockets. Just do that a 100 times. This archeivement is really easy. just bounce back stickies that lies on the ground. They also count as a reflection. you can repeat this often on the same stickies. I Fry: Ignite 10 disguised Spies. somebody see the references to the movie i, spy? kill 10 disguised spies.. just spray and pray you ignite a spy trust me.. it isnt that hard! Lumberjack: Kill 3 people with your axe in one life. With a uber this one isnt that hard. Just rush to a group and axe around you! Makin' Bacon: Kill 50 Heavies with your flamethrower. This one is actualy hard.. why? because most of the times heavy's are protected by medics. This way they are hard to kill with a flamethrower. But if you see a unprotected heavy.. strafe to them and walk circles around them. that is the good way to kill them. Next of Kindling: Ignite an enemy, and the Medic healing him. That is a easy one. Just rush to the medic and burn them both. OMGWTFBBQ: Kill an enemy with a taunt. We all love valve for this one. why? because this one is fun. Sinds the update the kamikamaha taunt (shotgun -> press 'G') will do damage. Minor the taunt is more then 1 sec to cast This way a person needs to stand still. only campers, like snipers are standing still in tf2.. so that will be a good target. Pilot Light: Ignite a rocket-jumping Soldier while he's in midair. this one looks hard.. but i think you will get this by luck. just burn a soldier that is flying through the air.. Plan B: Kill 10 enemies while you're both underwater. Again a good map to do this one is ctf_forts. because there is lots of water in it. There is only 1 catch.. a pyro cant use his flamethrower under water. so use your shotgun/axe to kill 10 guys that also are underwater. I dont know if they count if they are IN the water, but not UNDERWATER. Pyromancer: Do 1 million points of total fire damage. no need to tell something about it. A hard one. Lamers go to a archievement box where they get 1000000 damage in a few secs. But pro's are playing on lethal-zone! Pyrotechnics: Kill 3 enemies in a single uber-charge. Try killing guys with low HP, like scouts. If there just to fast, kill a medic. why medic? most of the times the heal a other person, so if the medic is dead go to the other person. If you lucky there will be a third person to get this archivement. Second Degree Burn: Kill a burning enemy who was ignited by another Pyro. Search and burn... just look around for burning enemy's.. be sure to get quick to them before the burning is out! Because they are burning they have proberly low HP. Be sure to check for nearby healthpack, because the change is big that they also search for it. Spontaneous Combustion: Ignite 10 cloaked Spies. Spray and pray.. who doesnt love that one. Just spray around and hope you will burn a spy. If you have all the spy archievements, just follow a spy until he will fanish. Another hint, spys will quickly get away after sapping a sentry or other building. The changes are great that he will get clocked.. Burn him after he get clocked. Trailblazer: Ignite 10 enemies that have recently used a teleporter. Not a hard one, because you can camp by a teleporter exit or just search for players with the sparkels out of there asses. If you see one.. kill them! do that 10 times! Weenie Roast: Have 2 enemy Scouts on fire at the same time. Scouts are rushers.. rushers always take the shortest way to a CP. So if you find out that way i know for sure you will find 2 scouts in the beginning of a map rushing to a CP. As the discription is saying, burn 2 scouts at the same time.
meh I got 0 achievements, so much for them being retroactive. I know I have the kills, damage, axes, and destroyed buildings. but nothing
k.. i'm finished typing.. tomorrow i will remove the spelling error's! if you have a addon, please post it!
playing a fps like a rpg, where you have to play for a shitload of time to get good weapons, laaaaaaaammmmeeeeeee
you didnt complain when you played cod4... Oke maybe the xp system in cod4 beter then the archievements from tf2.. But yesterday a half hour after the update there were players walking with flare guns/wired axes and the flametrower... Beside the spoiling part, where i see the flare gun, its just lame to grind for archievements. I mean, if you play a single player and you want to unlock the archievements you need to enter a codeword.. most of those codeword are found under the cheating section. I dont say this is cheating.. but it seriues think you can get those archievements easy when you play pyro. So grinding in archievements box is just lame
I went and farmed the unlocks, I don't care, why, because I beleive I deserved them. The ones I have actually done pre achievements are Arsonist Baptism By Fire BarbeQueQ Burn Ward Camp Fire Clearcutter Combined Fire Controlled Burn Cooking the Books Dance Dance Immolation Dead Heat Firefighter Firewall Firewatch Fire and Forget Fire Chief Freezer Burn Hot on Your Heel Hot Potato I Fry Lumberjack Makin' Bacon Next of Kindling Pilot Light Plan B Pyromancer Pyrotechnics Second Degree Burn Spontaneous Combustion Trailblazer Weenie Roast The ones I haven't Attention Getter Got A Light? Hotshot OMGWTFBBQ 31/35 I should have had already. Needed 3 that required the new additions, 1 requires killing a spy taunting with disguise kit, I have never seen a spy do that. So I farmed the enough for the unlocks, and I am not ashamed, If you feel what I did was wrong then you can burn. but wait whats this your playing pyro to get the shiney new toys you will never use again. Meanwhile the guys who have stuck with pyro through the bad times cant get a decent game because everybody else is now a pyro. The only thin that's wrong is all the kiddies with ADD jumping on pyro and making the normal 2 pyro max on a team into a 8man minimum on either team.
I don't care really if you get them by cheating or farming. Valve should have let the achievements stand by themselves, like they did with the first 17. Now, in my opinion, almost everyone who plays pyro is going for the achievements, and I don't think that's a lot of fun, especially with tons of other pyro's around. I never tried to earn the first 17 achievs, it just happened. There was no pressure and no new guns to be earned. It was just to show off how well you played the game. But now, players are constantly under pressure of achieving things, just to get the new weapons. In a gameplay perspective, I think it's more lame compared to farming or cheating. And that just ruins the whole experience for me. And to end this rant, the weapons aren't really that cool tbo. Maybe there would be a slight chance of earning the achievs and weapons decently, but that would mean that every player should stick with his usual class, that would balance things out. But Valve already fucked that up with the medic update. I was medic for a loooong time and I still would have been by now, but the fun was over when there were 10+ medics on a server. It's not about the guns really, but about the whole gameplay experience. I could have shown that I was a great medic, and the weapons would be that little extra. But players don't appreciate that (anymore). I don't care if there are noob medics willing to become a regular medic, that's not the point. It's about the constant spam om a certain class, just to earn the weapons and be done with it. How many medics are to be seen now? 2 per team at most. That says it all. So please Valve, if you do want to release new guns, just give them to anyone and leave the achievs to be earned by regular people who play that class for real.. TF2 doens't feel like it used to do at the beginning. Bringing 'experience points' to an FPS is a dangerous thing to do in my book, and Valve just wasn't thinking straight when they released the medic and pyro update. Free weekends don't help much either. That's the difference between like CS and TF2. In CS you can still pwn any noob that comes by, but in TF2 you have to rely on your team for succes. So I don't care really if I farm of cheat to get the new weapons. I'm not going through that stupid struggle, it doesn't make a difference anyway. I like a bit of prestige, like in CS you can immediately show that by aim and skill, but in TF2 all of that is gone. Except for maybe achievs and weapons, but that's gone also, cause everyone has them!
Sidewinder said it, however I do wish to add something. When the medic achievements came out everyone went out and got those new weapons, but it didn't make the medic class more fun (imo), but now with the pyro achievements, it's made the class a lot more fun (for me personally) even though I only have unlocked the flare gun so far, I actually enjoy playing the pyro class now and I can't wait for achievements for my own class (soldier)
i have 30/38 achievements now and i used to play pyro a lot as well. the achievement i hate is getting 1mil dmg points cause you have to start from scratch while with medic the healing points stayed from before the achievements. i only tested the flare gun so far and its not bad, but on the regular flamethrower i like the compression which is gone on the new 1