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Ban request : vleesch

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2' started by Anonymous, Sep 8, 2012.

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  1. Anonymous

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    steamID: vleesch
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:18243575
    steamID64: <a class="postlink" href="http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996752878" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996752878</a>
    customURL: <a class="postlink" href="http://steamcommunity.com/id/vlees" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://steamcommunity.com/id/vlees</a>
    steamrepURL: <a class="postlink" href="http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197996752878" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197996752878</a>


    was playing on am 1 , goldrush , map 3 , blue.
    this vleesch guy joins red as sniper and starts "destroying" (lol) my team, landing headshots everywhere . I've never been headshotted this many times in a row even by the few prem div people w/ 5 k hours of TF2 that hangs out on AM 1 . I know how to recognize talented players , he isn't even near being one , shitty movement etc. Can't believe this guy trashed talked me a couple of weeks ago lol . Not only does he have 1 k hours of TF2 but he a a shitty tryharder trader who trades all day on trade servers possibly , so remove ~500 hours or more to get his actual playtime . also , when i look at his backpack it kinda makes me smile to see all the hours he wasted for a shitty backpack like this.

    Anyway , i switched to spectator after the 3rd ridiculous headshot he got on me (thought it was luck at first ..), started recording , i think the demo is pretty self explainatory :)
    Aimbot (not an obvious one , he's using something called Silent aim to make the shot as natural as possible . pretty sure he has a key to disable/enable the aimbot too) , + some sort of aallhack .

    http://www.mediafire.com/?aaduzt88d6e6df1
    There is so much hacking overlays on his fucking screen that he doesn't even notice the 4 stickies in front of him , he just walks by , laughing my french ass off.

    i wanted to !calladmin but he left when i was about to , and no admins were online exepct for Snevlurl but i thought i wouldn't bother him in person with that.
    cya and ty for taking care of this.
     
  2. Panromir

    Panromir "10/10 amazing guy"

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    He has been on our watch for a while now, I will review this demo later.

    Thanks for reporting onv.
     
  3. DataStorm

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    I've seen it, but I don't see grounds on aimbotting tbh.
     
  4. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    vlees is a known person, he uses the flaws and hitbox registration client side within legal boundry's..

    i dont know how many settings he changed on his pc but he only needs 2 shots when i am in "visible" range .. and this has been for years and years. On et2fl he was banned once, but it got removed at some points due to lack of evidence and most demo's just show him shooting. (no flitching etc) its a pain, thats for sure.. but if a scout jumps around him he's dead. (he would still hit those if he was cheating proper) but hey.. i'll look at the demo too.
     
  5. Snelvuur

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    checked the video, cant really see any cheating in it, he misses like more then half his shots..
     
  6. Panromir

    Panromir "10/10 amazing guy"

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    2 or 3 very fishy shots but nothing that is solid enough, yeah.
     
  7. Anonymous

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    What more proofs do you need ? seriously ? Do you think the guy isn't hacking ?

    I swear i did not even know about this guy's ETF2L ban , yet i still spotted something suspicious about him YESTERDAY , and not 3 years go.
    This just confirms what i thought , watch the demo @ 75 % speed you will see. what can i say more ? have you ever seen a demo of someone using a silent aim aimbot hack ? I did , this looks exactly the same . Exept vlees has settings to miss the shots if his crosshair isn't close enough , this is called aimbot FOV .

    http://etf2l.org/2009/10/12/staff-changes-–-another-ban/

    Just look at the comments .. even if they're old jesus christ.

    also ,
    Was that his excuse he told you ? weird lerp and connection settings ? this would be hilarious . I learned alot about connection settings in TF2 , i was trying to find the best settings to play spy in highlander with a high ping , and not a single lerp will make you hit 90 % of your shots like that (as i said , he has a key to disable to aimbot , a panic key ), he is a shitty player , he moves like a shitty player but his aim turns out to be better than Natural's when he enables it , weird isn't it ? :)

    I don't know how hard he sucked your dick Snelvuur but if that's enough for a cheater to avoid a ban , lol.
     
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    Comments like your last one don't help terribly much when trying to convince someone of your cause.
    As for the ETF2L forum posts, just look at them, they are comments made by either people who are mad at him ("Hahaha, you got served!"), or by AC staff fanboys ("They don't ban for no reason!").

    And no, I didn't watch the demo, since I have neither TF2 installed nor do I have experience with aimbots. The only reason I bothered to comment in here was you relying on posts over in the ETF2L forum, and your last sentence in the previous post. ;)
     
  9. Anonymous

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    wait what , i actually need to convince and argue with people to proove the guy is hacking ? Just watch the god damn demo , you will see the twitchy shots.

    "Hahaha, you got served!"
    This is the trash talk sentence he said to the guy who wrote the comment , this is why the guy quoted. On top of being a shit player , a hacker , a shit trader and tryharder (I hope you're reading this , fils de pute ) , he is a shit talker that is now acting like an innocent and friendly sheep . There is one more thing that I find more pathetic than hackers , it's hackers who dare trash talk other people , haha.


    I don't care what he did 3 years ago Morroloan , what he did just confirms my today's thoughts . I am convinced that he hacked in a Lethal zone pub server yesterday and i'm requesting him to be banned because I stand for what is fair at my eyes.
    Now over the last 4 years , he probably became friends with admins and he sucked Lethal zone's admins penises so hard that your judgement and Snellvur's are blurried .

    Do w/e the hell you want now , not wasting any more time on this gl.
     
  10. Panromir

    Panromir "10/10 amazing guy"

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    Instead of swearing at us, you could have named the tick and the reason why you think the shot in the tick is actually done by/with a hack.

    That would really have helped.
     
  11. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    I am not saying its impossible for him to hack, but as a person that actually came over a couple of times at my place i find it hard that he would actually aimbot on a server of ours.

    I am also not saying that because i know him IRL that he has a free pass...

    But anyways, like panromir said..
     
  12. Jer9

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    Calm down, Onv. I can understand that you're angry at the hacker, but you don't need to insult every LZ admin and throw around insults in every sentence. it's not going to help your case any further. Plus admins are supposed to be unbiased, if we would ban every person based on one opinion everyone would have been banned for hacks.

    Anyway, I've watched the demo and have to say I didn't really see anything really suspicious. he looked like a decent player with a decent set of awareness. his shots were rather average in this demo. If he did have silent aim, wall hacks or an aimbot he would have had a lot more better kills than the ones he had now. I have watched several aimbot, wallhacking or silent aim videos while trying to see if any similarities were visible in the demo, but so I didnt see any.

    So for now, I would say no, he's not a hacker based on the evidence that was given to me. In case you find him hacking again and have a solid proof demo, feel free to post the demo in this thread, but with less commotion would be appriciated. I don't know Vleesch at all, so accusing me and others of pleasuring his private area is highly unappropiate. it's also in stride with the general rules we have on the forums and servers.
     
  13. Echo

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    All I can add to this is that on VSH when he plays as sniper Hale is good as dead... I was Hale on crevice and it's unbelievable how he happens to know which hole I come out from. At first I was sure he's using aimbot and wall hack but with some shots being missed occasionally, in fact really easy shots, and sometimes being able to ambush him I gave up on the theory of hacks.

    I heard he uses some special game pad that increases his accuracy with aiming. Sadly we have to live with the fact that we're dealing with a highly skilled player who can only take compliments from being called a hacker.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    I've met Vleesch too, noticed some really weird headshots. Went spec but did not see anything strange(however i have no clue what to look at).
    In your demo i couldn't see anything abnormal.Also if you see his steam profile he gets rep for trading and has alot of games, why would people risk that for a vac ban?I mean is it not much more easier to make a f2p account and hack with that?

    I could be wrong though, but i don't think he hacks.However imo hitboxes and stuff got ruined by all the valve updates.

    Btw, saw this forum post on etf2l. AnAkIn Anti Cheat v1.8 plugin

    <a class="postlink" href="http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-1/</a>

    This is from what i understand an heuristic cheat detection. The new feature can take screenshots from players. It can show then if there is a cheat.
    Maybe LZ can try that on the servers?
     
  15. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    that possibility is under consideration at the moment.
     
  16. Anonymous

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    I only trade about 1h after a major TF2 update to get rid off new weapons (yes rid, not trying to get them fast) and I have only done so three times yet. So the 1k hours are about 99.9% actual playtime.

    No, it is not "pretty self explainatory". Your rage is, though.

    So apparently you already know that this case is not even worth an admin's time.


    Unless he drugged me with something like GHB and I lost my memory I can assure you: I did not suck his dick (hard or soft or in any way).
    Nor am I interested in doing so. If you like getting sexual pleasures during gameplay from guys, feel free to find them, but I will not be your man.


    People watched the demo and disagree with you.

    I did not check the comment but as far as the quote some posts further up looks like I did not post that. Someone else said it, so don't make it look the other way around.
    Also swearing is prohibited on LZ afaik, schattebout.

    I did not hack yesterday. My KDR was <2. Pr0tip: don't walk in a straight line towards me.

    Again, get a BF/GF and no, I did not perform sexual acts on any LZ staff.

    Stop being mad. TF2 is a video game and if you have a bad day, press F10 and go outside and come back at a later time.


    I played Sniper in VSH around 2 or 3 times. All times I sucked and died very quickly which resulted in me never using that class again. My favorite class is Spy.

    Just like all my settings in TF2 I tweaked my mouse input configuration in my mousedriver, Windows and the game itself to perfectly fit for me. I do not use a special game pad.
    This is the mouse I use and it's not even something I can credit for having any quality at all: <a class="postlink" href="http://trust.com/products/product.aspx?artnr=15401" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://trust.com/products/product.aspx?artnr=15401</a>

    Thanks for reading and see you ingame (no, I won't trade with you, I hate TF2 trading).
     
  17. Panromir

    Panromir "10/10 amazing guy"

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    Every case is worth our time, no matter how angry or off the report seems to be.

    Furthermore, onv wasn't completely wrong with his accusations, you actually have been banned from ETF2L before, and that means you have been using hacks at that point.

    While that doesn't mean we generally assume you are hacking now, it obviously means that your case requires more time than other cases.

    That being said we can happily close this case now.

    Thank you for your patience.
     
  18. Snelvuur

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    btw, look at these shots.. <a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.lethal-zone.eu/skillz/merry-meatshots-frag-video-t12885.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">skillz/merry-meatshots-frag-video-t12885.html</a>
     
  19. Pablosky

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    I don't think you can really compare Luke to Vleesch.
     
  20. Snelvuur

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    merely pointing out that i think that the shots in that video are more impossible then the ones vlees did and its also all legit.
     
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