As has become apparent over my time at LZ (Which I will say isn't long compared to others) is that: 1. Your maps are awesome! 2. The admins are fair, and explain the bans and rules thoroughly. 3. The boxing ring in trade_piazza IS A NIGHTMARE TO KEEP ORDER. Seriously, there have been so many bans and kicks due to the boxing ring. I am beginning to think that people only use it as a place to 'troll' players. Why don't you just remove it from the map/s? (I'm not sure if it is on other maps, I only go on trade_piazza)
You can try allowing only 'one' person from each team in the ring at a time, that way not everyone can join and of course, no one can shoot from outside the ring. Keep up the good work.
The last version of the map did just that. However, the solution was also the cause of several crashes
That's right. The biggest issue with that "solution" was it crashing the server. That's why I removed it again and put a "normal" boxing ring back into the latest update. Shadow came with the idea of making the same concept a little different, a solution which should in fact work. But when I first made his idea in hammer, it didn't work and I couldn't find the problem at a first sight. I haven't had any time to get back to it since so it hasn't been fixed yet. If I find some time I might get back to it, but can't make any promises. Is this something I don't know of, or are you refering to a map update which is yet to come?
I would strongly suggest we remove the ring from the map until a fix is found. If your time allows to do that I think all admins would appreciate it very much, darkness.
Well, those people who come to trade servers (not just our trade servers) to annoy the hell out of people will still be there but couldnt do that much harm. Seeing the trade section "produce" the most bans in all Lethal Zone by far is a bit grotesque, though. As long as we got the ring I cant ignore it when regulars want a fight and are consistently disturbed. Presence of an admin on the other hand seems to make kids want to test how far they can go before they actually are banned. And then there are of course those who still do it after their 3rd or 4th ban... As a conclusion I just don't think a ring which permits interferences is usable in public play as long as you want to ensure fair fights. That's just 24/7 hassles for the admins and frustration for the few fair players on the server.
I see. And while I really have good intentions and I'm wanting to fix/change the map, time isn't on my side. I'll see if I can get a quick update out deleting the current ring (or just sealing of the boxingroom as in "Under Construction"). That shouldn't be too much work. (Let me know if you want to keep the room accessible or if you think just sealing of the room would make it more realistic; if we may use that word in TF2)
Don't get me wrong darkness, I appreciate your ideas for improvement and all the improvements you added to the map. Great job there! And I know there are more important things in life than a trading map, so don't worry. As for now locking the room might indeed be the easiest thing to do. Just remove the teleporters leading there and block the doors, would be fine with us.
Would it not just be easier to block the doors to the actual ring and put a sign saying "under development" or something similar? that way at least the spawn room technically is still 'intact' and the teleporter works and you can still relax/show off items in the boxing room but you just can't get into the ring to the fight. Then it would take less explaining for admins as well as to why the teleporters don't work etc. It would also take less map development in the future if the ring was to be re-instated as the teleporter then wouldn't have to be re-added surely? But either way, whichever is easiest for you Darkness if you are able to find time, thank you for the help!