Think it's time to do a cleanup on these, all these bosses can be modified but many are so either broken or over powered that it might be best to just remove them. Default ones: -Ninja Spy -Cristian Brutal Sniper -DemoPan -Vagineer -Saxton Hale -Seeman & Seeldier Defaults would be kept for sure.. but let's see if anyone would like to keep any specific bosses and see to altering some abilities to make it more balanced. Bosses that aren't mentioned should be removed. No I will not list all the non default bosses as there is a lot of them. Please don't list bosses you want removed, but ones you'd like to keep. Let's show some love to FF2 and get it going properly. Cheers ~Shadow
Painis cupcake must be kept, but the skin should be changed back to normal, I don't see a reason that why it was changed into a chef in a first place. These bosses should be kept too: -Painis Cupcake (Skin must be changed back to it's original) -Gangplank Gaben should be added. It was removed for some reason.
Im guessing Gaben got removed cuz of the Rage. The rage is ok but it can glitch the server. If the rage is used when a specific thing is happening (atleast it was before i left for a while) it could make the server stuck to be forever in the Slowmotion till the server restarts. We just need a list of all ff2 bosses, so ill take my time and look in the folder and list up all ff2 bosses we currently have. Spoiler ass_pancakes bad_ass_engineer (duke nukem voice so technically a duplicate) banjo bart billy bionic_commando bob_the_builder bugs chainsaw_billy chucky conker count_dracula crash cyclope dark_vader deman demopan donkeykong duke_nukem franky freddy_krueger gangplank (bad duplicate of v2) gangplank_2 garfield gentlespy_tex ghostbusters gingerbread_man goofy grinch gumby headless_horsemen invisibleman jason jeff_the_killer (i hate his rage, putting a jeff picture on everyones screen, god i hate that screen. I wish a replacement of it :>) kermit kratos luigi mario manny maximilian merasmus (WAIT THAT BOSS EXISTS? WOO) mummy ninjaspy oldnick pacman painis_cupcake pink_panther pinkiepie (no real textures, no models folder in download/models/freak_fortress_2) popeye rappy rayman robbierabbit santa_claus servantgrunt skeleton slimer the_fly wall_e war_machine weepingangel witch I would like to keep weepingangel Mario&Luigi (however the flaregun should only have 3 shots and not like 8 per rage) Gangplank_2 (this guy is pretty balanced, however u cant see the ueber after the rage ) the other bosses i dont see often so i cant really tell it. But Shadow i think it would be a better idea to list up all the bosses you wannt to remove, or you badly wannt to be removed. That would make it easier since this way you mostly only list up your favourite bosses and the balanced but not really loved bosses will be removed and that aint great :/
Thanks Yoshi, with your list I can list what to keep and what to toss. Spoiler ass_pancakes Keep bad_ass_engineer Toss banjo Dunno bart Toss billy Toss bionic_commando Keep bob_the_builder Toss bugs Toss chainsaw_billy Toss chucky Toss conker Dunno count_dracula Toss crash Keep cyclope Toss this black scottish cyclope dark_vader Definitely toss, or at least make it better deman Toss demopan YES!! donkeykong Keep it just because its op duke_nukem Keep the nuke, toss the engineer franky Keep freddy_krueger Keep gangplank Definitely keep gangplank_2 If this is required for team of 2, then keep garfield Toss, rage makes it glich gentlespy_tex Keep, it is original ghostbusters Toss, reskin of a witch gingerbread_man Toss, same as garfield goofy Keep grinch Keep, has an original rage gumby Toss, WHAT THE **** IS THAT THING! headless_horsemen Dunno invisiblemanDunno jason Keep jeff_the_killer Keep, just because of its rage kermit Toss kratos Toss luigi Keep mario Keep manny Toss maximilian Overpowered only reason to be kept merasmus Keep mummy Toss, the slow bosses are annoying ninjaspy Keep oldnick Keep pacman Toss, lame painis_cupcake Keep, just change the skin back to normal pink_panther Toss pinkiepie Toss, I don't want brony war here popeye Dunno rappy Quite same as demopan, not sure if toss or not rayman Toss, the game keeps downloading its soundfiles and is lame anyways robbierabbit Keep, or eye will kill you santa_claus Toss, playermodel is from gmod servantgrunt Keep skeleton Keep slimer Toss, it doesn't even have any moving parts the_fly Dunno wall_e Dunno, same as maximilian war_machine Keep, completelly op hale, but I think that few hales should be weepingangel Toss witch Keep
Here's the thing. Many bosses are dupes, and many overpowered in several ways... others have bugged models or hitboxes.. So the bosses you want to see uber on but don't .. it's something that can't be fixed on our end.. We can mess with their abilities, change their base class mess with their stats. But that's the limit, the rest we'd need a modeler. I don't have favorite bosses I want to keep. I just listed the default ones that come with the FreakFortress2 Mod pack. The problems I see are many bosses have broken hitboxes/models, others have too many abilities or too many broken abilities.. That's why suggesting removal of many bosses.. once we decide which we're keeping we'll see to balancing them out.. My suggestion personally is to remove all doubles and all broken model/hitbox ones. But asking here because I hope some people care.. let's see some more opinions.. so far only one.
Let me point you to the models we have... great example of how bad modelers can be.. and how hard it can be to even it all out.. It's not impossible obviously.. but takes a good bit of time and dedication before one can say with confidence "I can model properly" Good luck on it though :3
yeah but i think i will need some time till i can propperly model. Atm i just cant bring myself to start how modelling works xd