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New lz.war / lz tag enforcing on the AM6/Saxtoner

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2' started by Snelvuur, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    This is the first test of a new plugin.

    Basicly its set that any LZ member with a minimum of say 5 posts or something like that can use the |LZ| tag (same for war members, but they have to be in the group on the forum to be able to wear the tag on those servers)

    It checks your steamid from the forum and the amount of posts you have done so far. So if you just only registered its not enough, you should have 5 posts or so.

    Why are we doing such a thing? We see to many new faces on the servers and a lot of them dont even bother to take the time and be on the forum for a louzy few posts. If you have a welcome post on the forum its easy to get 5 posts within a day. No harm done.

    This way we also have a some what method of knowing who is actually wearing the tag or have worn it somehow.

    Anyway we all know what i mean, so if people ask or you find bugs (or you want to test it out) go ahead.
     
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  3. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    So its partially working, for the |LZ| part it should work, but the lz.war part it does not (yet) so tomorrow we will get a update and should fix it. For the time being its disabled now.

    Will let you know on the next trial run :)
     
  4. *Gaz

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    It's an interesting idea but how does it work for practical purposes ? The server removes the tag, the server doesnt allow you to connect or maybe you're autokicked once connected ? Tell us more ;D
     
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    It renames the tag part of your name if you're not allowed to wear it. You can still continue playing on with a weird name.
    In my case it'd be |LZ.NOREG| Bye Bye Mr. Moon, since there was an issue with the war squad tag, I wasn't authorized to wear it.
     
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    So newcomers are asked to communicate on the forum before they can wear the tag... very good idea in my opinion
    Some of the lz guys on the saxton hale server didnt even open up an introducing topic, I never saw them here in the forum
     
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    Hm yeah you're right I remember that I saw noscope with the LZ.NOREG yesterday x). Thanks for the answer.

    Btw I think that 5 posts is not enough, how can you pretend to be part of the community if you don't even exchange with its members (speaking about the forum). Those 5 posts only represent the "hi blablabla" and the few "thanks for the warm welcome", it's just a joke. The stage should be something like 30-50 posts, it's easily reachable even for untalkative players.
     
  9. Bye Bye Mr. Moon

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    Putting the amount of required posts higher might result in people spamming the forum, whether they mean harm or not.
     
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    See I had for the admin thing "we require x posts"... And some people spammed to shit. Not a good idea.
     
  11. *Gaz

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    Hm yeah that's what I thought afterwards, but in the other hand keeping it at 5 posts makes it pretty useless except for the war tag which requires to be in the group. As I said 5 posts is "hi-many thanks" and in the end we still dont know those guys wearing the tag. It's like "yeah now I'm allowed to wear the tag but dont give a fuck about the rest". Anyway we will see where this plug-in leads us
     
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    At this moment the requirements for wearing the |LZ| tag is saying "Hi" on the forum, nothing more.
    Goal of this plugin is to check if they meet these minimal requirements.
     
  13. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    Yeah so 5 posts is more then enough for now.. the idea is that they actually come to the forum and see the interaction and see that we have more to offer.. the more introduction topics there are the more people will see how active it is (which is already pretty well) and we always friendly greet them which would welcome them too.
     
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  15. Pablosky

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    Will this not dramatically decrease the people wearing a |LZ| tag, who can't be bothered registering on the forum and even posting five times? (And thus a decrease in advertisement for our community.)
     
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    Don't like it. Especially not the |LZ.NOREG| thing.

    Don't have the time to explain now, but I'll do so when I get back home.
     
  17. Anonymous

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    So that's what's happening to me, huh?
    I't's a really good idea, seriously, but in my current situation it's a bit annoying,
    cuz this is my fourth post...
    Anyway it may sound as an excuse, but i've been a bit busy in august an the latest days,
    basically for exams, so i'll try to be more active from now on.
     
  18. Snelvuur

    Snelvuur King of Sand

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    Well we do have some regulars that never been on the server.. so they "suffer" a bit too. But in the end we should keep that as a minimum thing for people to wear the tag, it aint much!

    p.s. its online on the saxtoner server..
     
  19. Killvion

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    In my personal opinion everybody that wears our tag is a +1 publicity for us.

    I'd rather remove the "you need to make 1 useless post" altogether than that I'd say: "You need to make 5 useless posts".

    Because this causes 2 things: 1) More spam, but not more regulars on the forum. 2) Less people wearing the tag.


    When a player just joins, a forum can be very overwhelming. There will be like a 100 posts marked as unread and if he or she isn't used to forums, (s)he will not see that the last post before him was a year ago. In their attempt to make 5 posts they'll annoy all the other members of the forum.

    And, in 5 posts you might get a bad impression, but a good one is definitely not achieved yet.


    Also it's good that it's no longer "LZ.UNREG" because people will be confused by this, seeing it as another official tag. = Not good.

    So all combined, I'm not a big fan of this problem.
     
  20. khadgar

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    Killvions point is making sense.
    We do want to attract players to the forum but not for simple spam topics and never to show up again.

    So... first usefull thing would be that people that first join our forum do NOT have unread topics. We should figure out if we can make it all read or even better, all except last weeks topics.
    That way he/she can look up topics of his interest by him/herself. Those most like will be the newer topics.

    The |LZ.UNREG| tag might not be the best way either. I would prefer the tag being stripped off completely and have the player been given an message about the need to register first.
    If you really dont want unregister players you can simply kick them for wearing the |LZ| tag while not having posted a single thing on the forum. Would certainly not be my first choice either.

    Like Kill said, the forum can be overwhelming at first entry so lets see if we can reduce that before forcing them to go there.