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Random crits

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2' started by Anonymous, May 24, 2011.

  1. Anonymous

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    Up untIll a few months ago random crits would almost never be on at the LZ servers. I liked that alot because nothing is cheaper than being killed by a random crit. It's one of the reasons why I already visit LZ servers frequently for almost three years. These days random crits win 9 out of 10 times (in my experience). I think this is because the server has alot of new people that don't know how the !crit preference command works (or maybe they just like crits). My question is can we get the old critvote before a map begins system back? Then we will at least know for sure if the new people really like random crits or if they are just clueless about the command.
     
  2. Killvion

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    The old critvote didn't give a good overview of what people really wanted, since a lot of people would still be loading when the vote was running.

    Perhaps a refresh of the database by letting everybody do it again. Might work.
     
  3. Anonymous

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    Doubt that would help much, since it's barely noticable that the command even exists in my opinion. If you that make sure they get a pop up in their faces so they notice it exists.

    The problem of the old crit vote system could easily be fixed by doing that vote a bit later. For example in the last 20 seconds during the warm up. Most people have loaded by then.

    I would really like it if this voting system is implented at one of the LZ servers. Or even better make one of the LZ servers a no crit server so you don't alienate the old school people who dislike random crits. I know I'm not the only one who hates the fact crits are always on these days.
     
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    In case you have missed, everyone who joins the server for the first time gets the plugin pop up in their face. They have to choose whether they prefer crits on or off, and then it will remember this.

    Removing all the preferences would make sure everyone would have to choose again whether they do or don't like crits. If a majority really likes crits, than democracy has spoken. We've tried no crit servers in the past, never worked.
     
  5. *Gaz

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    Maybe we should make the "no" as default value ^^
     
  6. Knightmare

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    I think its already set as that.
     
  7. Killvion

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    We made "no" the number 1 option. When in doubt or haste players almost always choose option 1. In that way we've already tried to favour the ones who like the crits off.
     
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    We should get a AM3 with no crits on it.
     
  9. 300_Angry_Kittens

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    I think a better choice would be to make the PL server (which is currently dying) a no crits server; this might make it more popular again.

    As Kilvion said we could delete the current preferences so everyone has to vote again; this should give us a more updated look at peoples opinion.
     
  10. *Gaz

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    Oh, thought than crits were enabled as default value Oo

    Couldn't agree more
    And as it would be a multimap server there will (at least i hope) less chances to get 3 goldrush at the same time T_T

    Yeah but I think that wouldn't solve the problem.
    (And we all know that most people want to keep crits ON ^^'')
     
  11. antou(fr)

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    Not on LZ servers... most of the people don't care, the rest want them off. I never met here someone saying "wtf crits off ?" .
     
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    Am3 will be a big fail, servers aren't even filled right now.
    Have tried that in the past with the same result as ever, only a few (me) actually trying to fill it.
     
  13. Wacked

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    One of the biggest reasons I flame is cause of random crits. In my oppinion the argument "its in the game" doesn't hold up any more. As it was implemented to help new users get kills. If you truly want crits, ask a medic to run it and ask for the charge. I tend to tell medics that a lot. Its not used as often as it could.

    Heck, even if you're engineer you can have crits these days, scout and what not. I also want to sneak in a comment as of why the servers have became more crits running lately. And its the lack of some regulars that were almost constantly on before. I remember seeing 6 voted on and 18 off many a times before. As the regular player base that existed a few months back was more prone to play with fair kills and or some luck.

    And yes, favouring the non-critters is most likely benefitial. Cause there tend to be less rage at the server from other users - than me - when its not there. However it tends to go very unbalanced at those times and the auto balance hardly kicks in after the 5seconds it says.

    Im very much for a non-crit server, but then again I also want vanilla unlocks and no hats and we can't have it all =)


    Oh yeah, Doel, seeing 5 LZ members in spec is not helping the servers. Instead be there and play. I usually get invited to be all friggin alone. Ofc the server will not fill up if there's spec there to hide the "facts" its empty.
     
  14. *Gaz

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    How long haven't you been playing there dude ? I see some people raging because crits are disabled quite often
     
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    1) It works.
    2) We have way too many things in our life to be playing all the time. We just can't.
    3) If you seem to have no problems with being alone on an empty server to fill it up, why don't you like it to be alone there?
     
  16. Anonymous

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    I have personally never noticed that pop-up. But I might have overlooked it.

    What was the reason the no crits servers didn't work out? I find that really weird considering the fact that the regular LZ servers have had crits off almost all the time making them no crits servers too. And those servers where always very popular.

    I hope that they resetting preferences will work out and that the crits will be off more often from now on. If that doesn't work I would really like to see the 'dead'' Payload server tried out as a no crits server. If that fails again you can always revert it back to Payload only.

    I barely see any people raging about crits off. And the ones who do are the same kind of people that try out the premium command to see if LZ has that feature. In other words some of them are terrible gamers in my opinion.
     
  17. Anonymous

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    we (i) set it to kick people when there are only 20 people on the server (could also set it to 18 to have a bit more buffer) just to fill the servers. imo people in spec won't hurt anybody if they are just there to get the server numbers up (yes we use people without them knowing it) after that they have i think a minuit or 2 to react on the server or they will be autokicked so don't realy see a problem some people have with specs when the server is like 18/24 (6 free spot AND reserved slots)
     
  18. Wacked

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    Bucket, I mean at the very start of a server when they are in spectator mode. I do know / have noticed the kicking only start at fuller server

    And I do mind being alone. Don't invite me / call an event if there sometimes is no intention to actually play. One way could be to re-direct people from a server to the other, specially between #1 and #2, I have no knowledge if this have been done in the past, but could work. The only thing then is the regular idlers have to start play when they see people join this way. All in all, people do want to play on Lethal Zone.

    And truly sorry for going off topic. I have not found a topic to vent these opinions as they've came up here. :oops:
     
  19. Anonymous

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    haha i'm glad and disapointed to inform you i looked into this (changing players to an other server) and this is where the disapointment comes in. there is NO way to force a player onto a other server. well i think this could be used in a bad way -> don't give a child a loaded gun haha, and therefor nobody ever made it posible. i did however once ( looooooooooooong time ago) seen a plugin that asked you if you wanted to join an other server if the one you conected to was full (buuuut i can think of some problems there to haha)
     
  20. *Gaz

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    I think it could be interesting to ask player(s) if they want to move from PL to #1 (for example) if the first is empty. I'm definitely not an expert but maybe the plugin which allows you to change server by typing !server could be a good idea