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Server 3

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2' started by tatum, Aug 13, 2009.

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Would you be happy with this server?

  1. YES

    7 vote(s)
    70.0%
  2. NO

    1 vote(s)
    10.0%
  3. yes if you add/change ... ( reply in thread )

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. tatum

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    Hi all,
    i've noticed that server 3 was hard to fill before the IP change, now its even harder. Maybe the server could be changed into something better. This would be the perfect server for me personally:

    Server 3 Lethal Zone - NO CRIT / ALL MAPS
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    So basically have a server where no crit is off by standard. The votes to decide if crits are OFF/ON on others servers are a good idea, but the votes are rarely fair in the way that the vote ends when half of the team is still loading. A no crit server would also attract more skilled players.

    The mapvote menu should give 5 vote options, the first option should be extend map as I, and probabbly others too, have voted the first option alot of time just because you were spamming the 1 button in the heat of the battle. An accident vote for extend map is better then voting for a map you dont want to play. The rest of the vote should present 4 maps.
    EX:
    1. Extend map
    2. cp_dustbowl
    3. cp_granary
    4. ctf_turbine
    5. pl_goldrush

    Again, these is a personal preference, but i'd like to see the following maps pop up in the vote menu:

    - cp_Badlands
    - cp_Fastlane
    - cp_Granary
    - cp_Well
    - cp_Dustbowl
    - cp_Egypt (CM)
    - cp_Gravelpit
    - Pl_BadwaterBasin
    - Pl_GoldRush
    - Plr_pipeline
    - ctf_turbine
    (- Pl_hoodoo )
    ( mmm thinks thats all the maps I like, I didnt added hoodoo cause its being played at the others servers so much of the time, but if you'd like to see it in just reply in the thread )

    Thats my idea, I dont know how others think about it tho so I added a vote. To the mods/admins, this is just an idea of mine, it are still your servers so i'm happy with any changes/no changes you make.
     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I like the CP's maps alot but if you are going No-Crits.
    You might as well make it a "comp" map rotation.
     
  3. Kippensoep

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    This is a nice idea, especially the extend vote.

    And in my opinion, these maps are underrated(almost not played) on lethal zone: cp_steel, cp_fastlane and cp_badlands.

    And it would be nice to have a nocrit server :D
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    glad to hear this, i've mentioned it before and think it would appeal to allot of regulars so i'm all for it
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    yep nice idea i have a other request tough ;) is it posible to make a "revote" option this also helps when you select 1 or just push the wrong number (if u have fat fingers like the heavy haha) and as long as junction isn't in the map haha maybe a couple of populair customs would be cool
     
  6. Spiff

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    Why not just rotate all maps? So skip the voting all together. Admins still can switch maps.
     
  7. Doelwit

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    Hey, good input!

    First a technical thing about the vote.
    We don't have a sourcemod coder. I'm glad we now have an extend map vote on option4, but i don't know how to get it on option 1 for instance. So if anyone knows someone who could help us out, it would be great :)

    That ''number 1 option'' is often discussed.
    But I think players, especially regulars, know how to use the vote. The crit vote very often ends in crits enable, which happens to be on option2. So players press with full attend on 2.
    Nevertheless, if someone can code sourcemod plugins for us, we should change it to 1 = extend.

    Personally i would restrict the vote to 3 maps. 4 maps is, i think, already too much choice making the end result not really great and leaving a larger part of the players unhappy. I think 3 maps is a good number. But let's see what most think of it ;) No problem to change to 4 if wanted.

    maps:
    - cp_Egypt (CM) What does (CM) mean?
    - pipeline. Only issue with the map is that is has some bugs, like dissapearing cart. Dunno if that still happens recently.

    Servername:

    [EU] Lethal-Zone.eu STOCK MAPS|NO CRITS

    or

    [EU] [EU] Lethal-Zone.eu STANDARD MAPS|NO CRITS

    Since custom maps are not in the cycle/vote

    I would just add1 thing more:
    adapt parts of the etf2l league to make it more a public league server or something.
    This will gve it more a ''pro'' feel to it.
    Stats will be still be shared with the other servers.

    Need some adjustments to make it suitable for public, but this will work.

    @ spiff: First: there are not always admins ingame. So to giove the players a feeling they can actually have influence on the maps played by a vote is a very big plus. Second: We decided or vote a while back, and that is really the best option next to have an admin ingame. You cannot, unfortunately depend on admin to switch maps.
    third: Cycle is always sucky and will leave you with either an empty server or a goldbowl 2 map cycle. Been there done that, failed ;)

    ^
     
  8. Spiff

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    @Doel: oki

    Think the reason that ppl have their full attention for voting for crits enable/disable is that it is at the start of the game. So ppl have the time to read and are not switching weapons. :)

    Also is it possible to have a louder/more noticable audible warning when a map vote starts? Now I only hear a small chirp.
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Critvote happens before any action maybe that has something to do with it?

    ETF2L has just released their own "pro" pub server, maybe you could ask for their config?
     
  10. Doelwit

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    Propably/Maybe, but the votes on the servers are in random order ( means goldbowl not always on option1) and they get chosen too, so i hope i am right ;)

    Not really needed, an check most of the config in hlsw. But i'm guesiing they adjusted their league config for public use too, we need to adjust it for our own needs. Is not really that special ;)
     
  11. Anonymous

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    Whilst looking at your config, I think you missed

     
  12. tatum

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    CM is short for Custom Map, I forgot to delete the CM :)
    anyway nice to see alot of input here
     
  13. Killvion

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    when you guys get your own no crits server, would you plz let the other servers have critz without screaming about it? :roll:

    liked server 3, but what ever. the map that is the most underrated of all maps is imo TC_Hydro! I really like the map. but it's never on Lethal :(
     
  14. Anonymous

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    how bout we do this
    server 1 no vote on crits
    server 2 voteable
    server 3 no crits
    ?

    and yeh i miss hydro too, remember we had a small revival goin on bout a month or 2 back, whut happened? :[
     
  15. Doelwit

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    hydro is in the vote of server1 and 2, but you have to viote for it ^^
     
  16. Anonymous

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    i still say trie the revote option (just have to type vote or revote) and the menu pops up again canceling your previouse vote (works on critvote to i think)

    sec like Killvion_NL said hydro is an underrated map i realy like it to.

    so my advice is (i'm not an admin or anything so you don't have to take up my advice haha) thinker with the mapchooser.cfg (located in the cfg/sourcemod folder) maybe something like this:

    // This file was auto-generated by SourceMod (v1.0.0.1946)
    // ConVars for plugin "mapchooser.smx"


    // Specifies how many more frags are allowed when map is extended.
    // -
    // Default: "10"
    // Minimum: "5.000000"
    sm_extendmap_fragstep "10"

    // Specifies how many more rounds each extension makes
    // -
    // Default: "5"
    // Minimum: "5.000000"
    sm_extendmap_roundstep "5"

    // Specifies how much many more minutes each extension makes
    // -
    // Default: "15"
    // Minimum: "5.000000"
    sm_extendmap_timestep "15"

    // Specifies how many past maps to exclude from the vote.
    // -
    // Default: "5"
    // Minimum: "0.000000"
    sm_mapvote_exclude "5"

    // Number of extensions allowed each map.
    // -
    // Default: "0"
    // Minimum: "0.000000"
    sm_mapvote_extend "1"

    // Specifies how many maps to include in the vote.
    // -
    // Default: "5"
    // Minimum: "2.000000"
    // Maximum: "6.000000"
    sm_mapvote_include "??"

    // Specifies whether or not MapChooser should pick a map if no votes are received.
    // -
    // Default: "1"
    // Minimum: "0.000000"
    // Maximum: "1.000000"
    sm_mapvote_novote "1"

    // Specifies when to start the vote based on time remaining.
    // -
    // Default: "3.0"
    // Minimum: "1.000000"
    sm_mapvote_start "10.0"

    // Specifies when to start the vote base on frags remaining.
    // -
    // Default: "5.0"
    // Minimum: "1.000000"
    sm_mapvote_startfrags "5.0"

    // Specifies when to start the vote based on rounds remaining.
    // -
    // Default: "2.0"
    // Minimum: "1.000000"
    sm_mapvote_startround "2.0"
     
  17. Killvion

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    would love that! good for everyone :)
     
  18. LuckyLuke

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    Hmm yea guess that's a good idea. I really want to play other maps than only goldrush/hoodoo/dushbowl. I almost never play badlands/granary/well, those maps are much better and I have to practice them for competitive games, last time I played badlands was on a war more than a week ago. :(
    So I'd rather see this server without dushtbowl/gold/hoodoo but I guess the server won't be more full than It was before. Actually the CP server now is my favorite server to play at, because there are maps on which I like and don't play often. The sad thing is that when I'm playing on this server, I'm mostly alone or with just one or two other players. :doubt:
    Voted "YES".
    Oh and about the no-crit thing is great, hopefully it works to get more skilled players on it then. I always vote it off now.
     
  19. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    +1
     
  20. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Well that quite much adds up my opinion. I do like the fact that we have a cp only and pl only server though. I play on 3 or 4 most of the time, now that my server 5 is cruelly murdered ;)