It has recently come to my attention that both servers for normal maps have turned into payload-only servers with very rare occasions of 'something else'. Right now: #1 - Goldrush; #2 - Thundermountain. And it's not the first goddamn time. Almost every time I check the servers, it's either one of the new payload maps or goldrush or badwater with some Dustbowl or Badlands in between every now and then. Also the map votings have become considerably worse - it's often: '1 - something horribly sucky, 2 - pl_something, 3 - pl(r)_otherthing'. I ask where's cp_well? Where's ctf_sawmill? Where's gravelpit? 2fort? Gorge? I think I'm speaking for many people here - cut down the amount of the friggin payload maps. There's a payload only server and let it stay that way. Playing a cycle of thundermountain -> upward -> goldrush -> thundermountain (repeat ad nauseum) is NOT fun.
I have quitted the servers on 2 occasions this day for that exact reason. It's was even so stupid that we played goldrush and the 3 vote options where other pl maps. So yeah, I'm with you on this one. Too bad that CP only server didn't work out in the past. Valve should stop making those damn clusterfuck maps. It's been a long, long time since we had a decent CP or A/D map from Valve. The fact that they give every update 2 payload maps doesn't help either since everyone seems to want to play the new maps.
hehe this time it's not me who started this whoehaha +1 going to try and make a good mapvote to prevent PL overload... like usual i'm going to talk about this with the topcats and if i get the OK it will be tested on server #1 for a day or 2 (after some tweaking where necessary it will go to #2) will keep you updated
Why isn't it so easy that we can just make 10 24/7 servers. Then nobody would ever have to complain. Shame that probably won't work out.
At least it's upward - thundermountain - badwater - goldrush - dustbowl, instead of just the last three! But yeah, +1
and keep changin servers hahahaha, and most 24/7 servers are fast respawn so i think vanilla is the best way to go. but valve gave us a slap in the jaw instead of a pad on the back with 3!! PL maps and only 1 (community) cp map, problem here is, 1: coldfront is more aimed at the competetive side of TF2 2: well is underplayed because most people like to camp out the map (dustbowl, gravelpit, PL...) instead of fast pased gameplay 3: maps are new... so again get overplayed (look at goldrush it's still overplayed) 4: every update we need to find a new setup for the mapvote and yeah like stated we had a cp only server but didn't realy took off. i'm busy now organising the maps in such a way that it's near to imposible to get 3 PL maps in the vote. and put well back in allong with steel. but please don't ask me to put junction in cause god knows why that map went stock. so hold on for a day or two and i'll come up with a solution
*doublepost* to bump hehe vote for the maps please so i have some reference of what you like and don't like here, http://www.lethal-zone.eu/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7092
Ahh the whining, that time of the year again? It's never good, always there's something. Better follow Killvion's advice and make 1 map only servers only. For once i wished someboduy would give a compliment for all the effort it takes to support the servers, but noooooo.
Isn't the fact that people keep returning to your servers a compliment enough? I like the server, I like the community, I just dislike the fact that there are practically 3 PAYLOAD servers now instead of All Maps. I just hope it blows over.
Doelwit, every thread in the 'Introduce yourself' section of the forum is a compliment for the servers and the community. If people wouldn't care about your servers, then they wouldn't create an account on the forums and start spamming it. I know, it looks like people only complain about this and that, but if you look at the community which grew around these servers, you should see, that the effort you and the others put in these servers aren't lost somewhere in space.
make them vote for the maps haha the more feedback the more i can try to finetune it http://www.lethal-zone.eu/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7092
Fact: We have a mapvoting system so that players can choose the map they prefer. Fact: We have plenty of maps in the vote. Currently the mapvoting system looks like this: Code: "Group 1 - Fillers" { "slots" "1" "plr_hightower" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "pl_thundermountain" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "pl_upward" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "cp_coldfront" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } } "Group 2" { "slots" "1" "pl_badwater" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "cp_badlands" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "pl_goldrush" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "cp_dustbowl" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "cp_egypt_final" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "pl_hoodoo_final" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "cp_fastlane" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } } "Group 3" { "slots" "1" "cp_frontline_a1" { "min" "20" "max" "24" } "pl_swiftwater" { "min" "20" "max" "24" } "ctf_doublecross" { "min" "20" "max" "24" } "plr_whalerace_a4a" { "min" "16" "max" "24" } "ctf_turbine" { "min" "1" "max" "24" } "cp_yukon_final" { "min" "12" "max" "24" } "cp_gorge" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } "cp_steel" { "max" "24" "min" "1" } } Code: // Specifies how many past maps to exclude from the vote. // - // Default: "5" // Minimum: "0.000000" sm_mapvote_exclude "6" // Number of extensions allowed each map. // - // Default: "0" // Minimum: "0.000000" sm_mapvote_extend "1" 3 Map groups, each having 1 slot. So out of each group 1 map is picked into the vote. Past 6 played maps should been excluded from the vote. So tell me forum.... whats wrong with this setup? I think its fine.... just get people to vote on other maps. But thats hard.... and might cause a server to run empty.
think it's the old mapvote we or something's wrong because the last 6 maps always come back sooner (i think) just wait a day or 2 when i get enough results in from the vote i'll reorganise it a litlle. so there's no need anymore about maps missing or shitty vote's or shitty maps in the vote... you people have the chance now to let us hear what maps you want... so go ever to my post there (link's somewhere here in this one) and vote for the map. tomorow i'm going to make a first count and see what the results are. based on that i will rearange the vote (will check the result with the topcats first)
It doesn't exclude the past 6 played maps. More like the past 6 vote-able maps. Also having a vote where all options are the same gametype is biased.
if we still had the random vote it would be more often then it is now, and now that valve released 3 new PL maps we created 1 option with the new maps the other 2 scrambled the rest. i'm going to try an dumb down the "same gametype" votes by organising a vote that has 1 PL 1 uber populair (not including PL see above) 1 normal maybe that i will put a PL map somewhere in the 2 last ones but it's imposible to get all PL votes. after this is done WE can't tweak it any more to your likings, so if this vote is fixed YOU have to vote for the maps. so if it's goldbowlpitwater again it's not our doing but the players who vote for them.
this story comes every now and then, even though you can say that people that visit the forum and return on the servers are a compliment on its own. True, but instead of talking about problems.. you can also help out. I know kick is doing a good job with the map rotation but in all fairness it is what people vote. The server gets full then easy too. A lot of non-recurring people join because of the maps itself. This whole "the maps sucks" ALWAYS comes back at some point on the forum. We know this is a issue but its like throwing a party for 100000 people and they all want there own diner. This is not possible, you give them fish/meat/fries/potatoes and that basicly feeds 99000 people. Well you understand my idea. Anyway, kick is trying to make it better. If there are issues like this in the future, perhaps contact kick directly and see if you can come up with a sollution. In case of major revamps you can always message me if needed, i am always willing to talk.
i'm also looking for a solution for RTV + Nominations (now we can only RTV, nominations don't work) well testing it on #1 so if u are tired of the PL votes head over there and tell me what you think. not much is changed: - added a few maps deu to people liking it but wasn't there - made a Pl only and cp/ctf2 only option (so always 1 PL, 1 CP/CTF and 1 random) - scrambled the maps a litlle now going to make me dinner and then i'm heading over to the server to see what people think :lol: