There are two new cloaks now, but I'm not sure what to use. Dead ringer is fun, but it drains so fast that you reappear just in front of the enemy. Cloak and dagger is usefull, but it drains fast as well and it takes a long time to get it up again. I think when I used the two new ones now, the old one worked best.
I haven't received either of the new cloaks so I have no first hand experience, but I think I would prefer the one with unlimited cloak while standing still. Just wait for the right time, pick of one or two enemies then quickly cloak and vanish. I don't really know about the disadvantages it has, does it drain considerably faster when moving while cloaked?
Well I have all 3 doube now since the achievs came out. I switched to the dead ringer as soon as I got it since it was my first new watch. It was horrible. Now I played it some more and I'm getting better with it so now it's kinda good. I loved to concept of the cloack and dagger, but with that being the last unlock I had to recieve I haven't really gave it a serious try. I was so into the cloack and dagger that I just forgot to stand still and didnt dodge enemies and stuff. The normal watch always worked nicely for me but I'm not using it cause I wanna try the new ones out some more. So atm I use the dead ringer, but I think that whichever one you use should depend on the situation, in my case, what you're into most at that moment.
yeh staying with my ol trusty cloak aswell, rythm is way easier for me dead ringer is cool in concept, but just doesnt work for me long term and against engineers cloak and dagger is cool, especially on arena we have some great spies makin people hellaparanoid with the thing, but i'm still using the old one
Old cloak is my favorite Why? -Dead ringer tbh just sucks, I need the abiliy to sneak behind enemies, not to get shot by them (and if you get burned by a pyro you're still visible) Also the sound it makes can be heard throughout the entire map.. -Cloak and dagger is good, BUT it drains down way to fast and reloads way too slow People always say 'awesome,now I can be cloaked forever', what they don't know is that you'll have to run slower than a heavy to stay more than 10seconds cloaked and you'll stand still 80% of the round, waiting for your cloak to reload I always need to wait 10-15 seconds for it to be fully refilled again and then I can cloak for about a full 5-6 seconds ? I know crouching etc slows it down, but it just takes way too long for it to reload (even when not being cloaked). -The normal cloak can be refilled by being not cloaked and by ammo/weapons So basically, everytime you kill an enemy, you will gain cloak because you'll pick up his weapon You can also be cloaked for a full 10seconds ! If you know where the ammocrates are in the map, you'll be infinitely cloaked as well
I say Dead Ringer..It fits my kind of style. I've tried the Cloak and Dagger, It's quite fun, but I like the Dead Ringer more... Though the last time I used the Cloak and Dagger, I've noticed once your meter is "empty" you're still invisible for the players but Sentries will shoot at you... The Dead Ringer is basically an escape tool, it gives you a nice escape if you're followed around by a <put class here> or something. They shoot you, see you dieing and go back to what ever they were doing...while you're still sneaking around...It feels great
You are a sillouette, like a bumped-into spy. I am torn between the C&D and the normal one, since the Dead Ringer is so easy to counter. I don't play spy enough to really give a good argument though. But the C&D is more stalker style while the normal one gives more of the hit-and-run feeling.
Guess the players I was playing with were just not paying attention then :lol: I already thought it would be strange that you would have an infinite 100% cloak
I only played with the cloack and dagger. And it was a double feeling. I loved how you could have a moment to observ the situation and wait for a perfect moment to strike. But as noted before, you're gonna stand still most of the round which is kinda annoying. (not to mention completely useless for your team) And on maps with a lot of metal, it's useless compared to the normal cloak. But it was fun. I don't play spy enough though so I'm not gonna throw in a vote.
Deadringer is useless imo. Cloak and Dagger and Normal cloak are best. I alternate between them, depending on my needs.
I agree the dead ringer is less useful now. It was fine at the start but I notice people cathcing up on the sound. In the beginning it worked pretty well at both groups at a cart and lonely people like engies or snipers. Now everyone knows the sound and just spy-checks all the way. Good hint if you use it: Just disguise and walk towards the other team a bit backward, as if you were watching for no enemies to follow you. Really just act like a RED (if playing BLU). If you bump into players or if you are spychecked, no problem. The deadringer will do his job and you are secure. Since you make such a hard spy attempt, people will usually think you are a spy without the dead ringer, since most dead ringers just walk straight towards the enemy knowing they will get cloacked.
Yeah, and what I've found usefull as well (in the few times I played spy) is to never have your crosshair on an enemy when your disguised. The target will feel targetted easier then if you walk parallel. It's the way I reconise most spy's. They behave as an enemy would (croshair on target, ready to fire) That and sidestrafing to keep a distance (this really makes you suspicious as well)
Okay after some pondering and yesterdays game I found my favorite: The Camp'n'Dagger. This watch is perfect to spy in smaller areas, where you don't need to move much. I had yesterday a chainstab of around 6 people just because I was able to wait for the right moment, which wouldn't have worked with the regular Invisiwatch. It gives a satisfying feeling to observe your prey running around while they having no clue that they're going to get some nice "knifeacupuncture". Plus it's awesome to taunt people with voice spams while being invisible.
OMG I'm going to try that taunt killing with the dead ringer. That was SO cool and SO funny The black scottisch cyclops, now extinct, hehehe Love the new voice lines, I love em!
Lol that video is awesome... I think I like dead ringer most because it's the most fun to play with, it's just not always usefull. Depends on the situation I guess.