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Teamstacking

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2' started by Anonymous, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. Anonymous

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    Well men

    Lately there's a lot teamstacking going on on the servers , so much its getting ridiculous .
    Now i know there's the scramble option but that doesn't always work because the new peeps dont know what to do .
    The funny part of this is , that its mostly the admins/regulairs who are teamstacking .
    I dont wanne tell you men how to do your job as admins but some regulairs come complaining to me about this (as they thought i was still a staffmember) , so i think its time to act to this problem .

    Thank you for your time .

    Duxi .
     
  2. Doelwit

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  3. Anonymous

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    Yeah and this is a problem when u try to fill the server, peeps leave when they loose all the time.
     
  4. Anonymous

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    indeed etana , and sorry doelwit i cant give you any names , some of those men are good friends but they have a responsibility as admin/staffmember and its time they took that responsibility .
    The ones who i am talking about know it and i hope that the staffmembers will keep an eye on this .
     
  5. Kippensoep

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    I'm not stacking, I'm even not playing though university :D (except weekends maybe)

    But most of the time I do auto-assign, and I even try not ending up in a team with more than 2 clanmembers or sometimes I teamswitch to the other team.
    I understand the stacking, because it's more fun to play with a friend than getting killed by him/her xd

    If your team can listen very well, just go all spectate, would be fun if half the other team gets autobalanced :p
     
  6. Anonymous

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    I pretty much always auto assign, unless I wanna play with my brother...
     
  7. Killvion

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    kippie, not to be rude or anything. but I can't remember the last match where you and your bro weren't in the same team :roll:

    further, noticed this clan, "fm."
    some random players:
    http://lethal.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=21400
    http://lethal.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=17352
    http://lethal.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=58413
    http://lethal.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=33013
    http://lethal.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=33010

    these guys are always stacking
     
  8. Anonymous

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    quick question ... can a admin do a scramble or is it just by voting ?

    thats one way to do it :D
     
  9. $ouljah*

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    i do often double scrambles even if there was no vote...
     
  10. LuckyLuke

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    Killvion what do you think about the clan STD then, once in a lethal server It was a 6v6 and in one team there were 6 of STD in and the other team was just random ppl. :?
    That's what I call stacking. :p
     
  11. Anonymous

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    Some people don't know what to do when the vote for scramble comes..
    Or do know that they can type !scramble to help.
    They need help with it...

    And admins should know better then to clan/teamstack.
    I always press 5 to stay alive.. since the early days...
    Now it just changed to 1 ;)
     
  12. Anonymous

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    only thing i do when i join a the server is autojoin and let the game decide, one time scramble stacked my clan in one team so that wasn't realy good so. and the problem is you cant easely change teams... i tried once when there were 4 members of my clan in one team i had to spectate for god knows how long just so i could join the other team.
    only thing to solve the problem is to hope the clans notice that they are stacking (or every clan removes his tag on pubs,so nobody knows they are clannies)
     
  13. Anonymous

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    Auto-assign all the way, and yes Fm. (Fragmativ) are sometimes stacking but I have yet too them rape it all.
    Also make admins able to start a scramble vote.
     
  14. Killvion

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    auto assing is a joke... at a payload or attack/defence map, you'll join blu (when it's possible) and at a 5cp map you'll get placed to red. (if possible)
    come on guys. you know that. that's why I almost never use auto assign anymore.

    I just press tab to view the teams and then I make my deccision. based on skill and clan mates of me. is there one team losing like shit? I'll join that one. does blu already have a few [L-TF2] members? I'll join red. at the beginning of maps when there aren't much people around yet. I join either blu or red based on what I would like to do at that moment. attack or defence... (on 5 cp maps it doens't matter ofc)

    @ lucky, well if I wasn't there I couldn't know and can't say, now do I ;) but thanks for bringing it on table
     
  15. Anonymous

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    this isn't about who's a good boy and who is not ...

    i believe that admins hould have an option to scramble .

    often even before a map begins i can see wich team wins because of the stacking and if i can see it then an admin can see it to and should scramble .
     
  16. Anonymous

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    Does the scramble option actually make a difference btw? A few days ago we did a scramble by vote and I don't think more than 2-3 people were moved to the other team..
     
  17. Anonymous

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    I remember that Server 1 and 2 had an option to scramble manually. Server 3 didn't though.
    And yeah I sometimes scramble manually, when I see that one team just gets steamrolled. (in other words, if one team looses the game under 3 minutes or so.)

    I can't say that I always join a random team. I mostly look which team is loosing and join them to even the game out a bit. Or at the beginning which team has a Medic and which doesn't. (Games without Medics are tedious ...)
     
  18. $ouljah*

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    easy sollution: to make it easy even for the lesser-experienced players on our servers i do the following:
    sm_vote "scramble now" "yes" "no"
    sm_scramblenow
    (i often do it twice in a row to make it a real scramble)

    juts a recommendation for our admins to do the same. but dont abse the scramble option. teams should only be scrambled if one team steamrolls the other as if there were no 2morrow. dont forget that even a good team could be steamrolled unfortunatelly...if the teams swap and they attack, it could happen that they are better in attack than in defense...
    $oul

    PS. about stacking i like to play with good teamplayers in one team (i even like to play medic then- best class to keep the fighting classes on the frontline without retreats), but thats an old topic...
     
  19. Anonymous

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    Can mini-admin's use these commands as well?
     
  20. Bye Bye Mr. Moon

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    Good old time that tR stacked and killed everyone :wink:


    I'm not playing much lately, only bbal, dball and wars :(

    But when I'll pub, I'll pay attention and I won't stack (anymore) :) :p