well i decided to give the map i wanted to make an other go (about 2 years i'm planning it but never found the will to do it) i decided that i was going for a 5cp push/pull map (granary, badlands...) but in a somewhat "S"-shape like badlands and less straight like granary. set in a jungle-theme (not many maps out there with jungle-theme) only when i took a peek at badlands in hamer i was blown away by the gezilion lines making up the map, so do i start? i don't want my map to be to big or to small thats why i wanted to take some reference from badlands and start from there. so work my way from the mid-cp to first spawn and copy that to the other side any help is welcome BTW i'm thinking about making it a open source map, so everybody can change stuff, or make a piece of the map (and maybe name the map after lethal-zone)