It's the same problem for All Maps 1 with stacking LZ regulars into one team. Our admins shouldn't stack for example, we need everyones help to have better and popular servers. I joined All Maps one two days ago and I saw stacking again, so I joined the opposite team to balance it. We all should think about stacking and joining the opposite team for example!
Believing in the good in people doesnt work. We had forceautoteam but people weren't happy with it, so I removed it again. In the end, the majority prefers stacked horrible teams, as sad as it is. Nothing we can do about it.
So we should let them just think the other way around! I don't get it why we can't have balanced teams with LZ regulars (also no tagged; snelvuur). I would joined the opposide team, I have no problem with that. Admins should have some responsibility! We have got some Dustbowl admins as I remember, they could fill the dustbowl server for example. I'm not forcing anyone, just thinking to have the dustbowl server full again! Because I like it aswell, I'm up for filling it if I don't fill trade server #2. PS: I have said what I wanted and admins really should be responsible for this aswell. Think about solutions of filling the dustbowl server, not about the problems we have already.
I'm quite sure that most of the people complaining about stacking now, aren't even fully aware of when others are or aren't stacking. On any good night on AM1 I'll have at least 5 friends in each team when I join. No matter which team I join, I'll always join friends. Some of them are, but by far most of them aren't using an LZ tag. Some people might say that I'm stacking, while I'm joining the team with the least of my friends. Stacking is for a large part perception of people, that only care for people that use the same tag. Those people with the same tag might not even be communicating or working together, while people without or with different tags do.
Yes I am one of them,And I've said all that needs to be said about this on the last page.A revival will be attempted again(At least by me)once I feel people on servers like AM1 Have gotten past their silly little problems and start balancing the teams. The issue right now on Dustbowl would be..Oh look that RED Combo sure seems capable and shiny.Oh boy the BLU team smells like Cabbage so I won't go any class that could help because it's clearly out of my hands.Oh my the RED team won last round because I was playing Spy and picking my nose in spawn.Better join them then!And then the RED team ends up having 2 Combos and what I like to call the Boogie/Luke syndrome respectively kicks in.Actually the entirety of what I just said can be named the boogie/Luke syndrome. Done
I once had a guy, joining the server (4 people allready on it, 2 lz-tags, 1 reg and non-reg) The guy who joined: Ooh yes, LZ-stack servers, forgot, bye. If you react like that, I will even do the effort of looking up your steam-id and kick you for at least a week. It's just people think we stack, but most of the them are players who don't know our servers. And don't know our regs. You can't just do something about it. It's a way of thinking.
There used to be regulars whom had no LZ tags such as Dr.Pop and Powerslave etc... who played on dustbowl regularly and were good opponents against LZ regulars such as boogie. However, these such players rarely play tf2 anymore on a regular basis leading to a lack of good opponents. The problem in general with all dustbowl servers is that all you need is at least 1-2 good players and a decent medic to destroy the enemies defences and spawn kill them leading them to rage quit. (The Boogie/Luke syndrome ) I have tried filling the server with at least 6-8 friends but it takes ages before new players join, is it possible that new players are having a hard time finding our LZ server through the server search?
The theory always was that it requires working quick-play for a server to be filled quickly. How exactly that system works though, only Valve know.
best chance to fill the server is in the weekend.. During the week around 15:00 or so, forget about it. Only works "maybe" in prime time. Days depends too, thursday is busy, friday starts late. Monday is usually "ok" tuesdays is always a dead day.. its really weird.
I remember those days when LZ people fill the servers and IDLE if it was an empty server. The servers should be fuller in no time. These days I do not see a lot players doing it anymore. It's a shame, because it should still work. I'm thinking about solutions, not problems what most do here...
because you don't even KNOW the facts of a Dustbowl server and now you(Jigsaw) post stuff I only laugh about. You always think that you know everything better. But in fact you just don't want me to have high success. And most of the time you don't even read what I write. if you weren't a dickhead who thinks to know everything better, than I would listen to you. I will ignore you PS: Jigsaw is not really active at the moment on Dustbowl, so I will not listen to him until he knows the facts. And I don't care if he thinks something is wrong Now that I am done with that.I will ignore future posts and won't bother anyone with this again. BACK to the topic at hand.I've asked Killvion if he would be up for trying to fill the server this weekend...So if anyone would like to suggest a time when a few of us can try that (I would say 12:00 to 14:00 Since I don't know what everyone is doing tomorrow) I'll be on during the weekend so if you want to try filling Dustbowl please pop me a message or join mumble or... Alternatively leave a time so we can maybe try setting something up
So you want to quote my text to troll me in open public? Can you stop to quote my text what I said in private? These is really an offense in open public. But whatever, STJ is a kid and I will leave him. And anyways I'm always up to fill the old Dustbowl server I played a lot on.
I'm sorry for wasting your time but it was something I felt needed to be done.Anyways the second part of the post contains things relating to the topic.
Looks like you guys write here things off topic. Please try to think about solutions not more problems... I think that bots are not a bad idea and many almost always full servers have them. I can post some ips so you can check these servers. I dont know what exactly is the problem with bots. On the default maps they are good. Im talking about like 4vs4 getting kicked when people join one-by-one. The biggest problem is to start the server IMO.
I believe we had a problems with people getting kicked for bots or them not joining correctly or something. We had them, but then got rid of them because they caused issues...
On top of that bots cause server load. Thats no use if the server stays empty anyway, which it will. Bots dont really work well in TF2
I always send my alt in 1 of the lz servers when im at home (during evening or weekend) to idle there and if im not doing anything myself i idle there with my main account or actually actively try to fill it (as I've done for months now). Problem is that I'm 1 of the very few people who actually tries to fill it and it becomes harder and harder since people for some reason want to play less and less on a (at that time) low populated server. They dont see it will fill if they stay for just a bit. And indeed especially on dustbowl 1 team always completly rapes the other team. But you cant really blame admins for it since we dont have too many admins playing on dustbowl anymore. Only 1-2 at most at the time. The problem lies in the regulars that seem to enjoy steamroll again and again for some reason. And since almost nobody seems to care anymore it will only get harder to get it and keep it full.