love arena, hell even Abraham Lincoln loves it! maps definitly look intresting, nighttime shift is also nice guessing we will get a few community maps aswell, hopefully some cp "Saw Mill" fits nice in line with one of the better custom's out there atm -> Cashworks
Guess I'm gonna have to try this Arena mode once, never played it before. And the racing cart map sounds great!
Call me nobody, i like arena. Ow and the players on our arena server will disagree too with you. New maps look nice
The last 3 updates only gave mostly arena maps. There still has to be a good cp or a/d map. Since Junctions fails, HARD.
That new pl map news just made my day. Sawmill actually looks pretty nice, too bad its just arena mode.
regardless of what you guys might think I like arena maps and I dont think watchtower is all that crappy. I don't dislike junction, although it is a bit of a maze. I like steel. Get over it. The rain sounds interesting and promising! Best part of the updates aren't the maps. Not the weapons either. Achievs ftw ^^ Achievement servers are for PUSSIES I would still like to see some more gravelpit/badlands around btw Damn me for being so lazy. I gotta work on my own map some more >.< or actually mine and jer9's map. Still gotta find a way to work simultaniously properly
they should just take one of the bigger maps from the community.. junction is also community i think, but its just too small.. last map that was fun is badwater
I'm sure we can do it on 1 and 2 and 5. Maybe we could even change 3 or 5 temporarily to new-map-server? Arena maps can be played on 4 I guess. Can't wait! Hang on a minute... released in a few days?.. My exams are starting on monday No time to play myself to death Ah bumbaskets -.-
And they fucked it up again after such a good start... Honestly? It's bullshit. I played more Sniper than Spy but I still think that this is just plain stupid. They just pointed the big middle finger to the rock/scissor/paper-principle with such a class specific unlockable. The Spy is the natural enemy of the Sniper - deal with it. Or what are they going to do with the Spy update? Give him a fireproof suit, so Pyros can't ignite them anymore?! Besides that... it's not even effective. Smart Spies now take out those Snipers with 2-3 Revolvershots.
Also Valve had a different update page up for about 10 mins. With an uncloaking spy! Confirmed http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/15/sniper-update-day-3-things-get-mysterious/ Will this be a spy update after all?
So far weapons only had effect while equiped, not carried (spy disguise not taken into acount). So thinking this is a replacement for the SMG, maybe you have to activly use it for it to work, rather than sniping unworried. At least that would make things more fair. If we take the april 1st poster seriously, than maybe the jarate is the melee-weapon replacement. If so this would suck. First of all because then the sniper would almost become an anti-spy class rather than the other way around. Secondly because with this shieldthing and the jarate you only have your primary for actual damage. In Valve we trust, and I do hope thay either you have to have this shield equipped for it to be active, or have to re-equip it every 10 seconds or something because it falls off your back. Or maybe that its not as OP as this makes it look like. Another thought: If you can have the shield all the time by just having it unlocked, maybe you wouldnt notice it when its stabbed. Doesnt sund likely, but if you're not really warned that your shield has been stabbed and the spy shocked, maybe the spy can have a relativly safe 2nd try. Also the cooling should take 3 secs max. Would the shield be plainly visible if used? In other words, are you really a dumb spy to stabit or can't you help it? I think the first applies, so thats something already. I think that, maybe with a little post-update adaptions, it might just not be screwed up YET. Let's hope the 3rd weapon gives us some more hope.
on that website pS. gave us there is a link to a topic about it on the steam forums, there the most people think the sniper update isn't real but the spy update is comming or the spy is comming at the same time because: All the sniper weapons so far are DIRECTLY from idea's on the forum. and if you look at that arena map, sawmill, (what is made by valve itself for the first time in an update) it has something about a SPYdetecting labority underneath the cap point....ahumm... this could all very well be a distraction from Valve who just loves to mess with us. I think you shouldn't lose your faith for the sniper unlocks YET, because this things MIGHT not even ever get in the game.
I say it's just to keep the rumor mill running and so TF2 will stay a hot topic. And if TF2 resounds throughtout the internet community, more people will get interested in the game, buy it and so Gabe will earns his money for his daily dozen cupcakes. I mean it wasn't any different with the supposedly 10th class from that Left4Dead Easter Egg.