Yeah everywhere also on the ETF2L forum saying that TF2 just died... not good update for competitive tf2 for sure, can be fun for pub.. :doubt: love the new hats though hopefully ETF2L is going vanilla + (old) medic unlocks
I got paid today so i went ahead and bought the entire polycount pack of weapons and hats, i have had 900 hours of enjoyment from this game, and do not see myself stopping any time soon, Valve needs something to keep bringing us this cool stuff. Flame away /:
I have also seen the ETF2L forums and they always overreact to these updates. Most of these unlocks ain't even really usable on competitive, I mean, a scout without scattergun? A sniper that can't do headshots? And the rest are just plain worse than their vanilla counterpart. (<-- that doesnt mean that they aren't any good, can't wait to slap some people with a fish!) 3 years of updates mates, and they still have a new gamemode coming AND a suprise class pack! 1400 + hours of fun from a single game and I ain't bored yet.
Look at them lemons whining about how TF2 died. Again. For the 3rd or already 4th time. And after all these tragic deaths they're still here - probably desecrating the dead corpse that used to be TF2 or how should I interpret that? I hope the fish features jiggle physics and a satisfying *flap*-hit sound. ^^
Personally the problem I have is with the set bonus. Even with the "small useless" bonus it's something that's not easily distinguishable. It's hard enough to react to someone having a different weapon but it's impossible to see if that person has the set or not, since you can't see all the weapons at the same time. Also the setbonusses change the class too much, sniper no headshots, scout no longer the class with the least hp / no scattergun, pyro's faster then 7 other classes. Again Team Fortress for me is all about adapting to the situation at hand, to know when to fight and when to flee. I can't do that if I don't know what the other guy is using. I don't know if I can outrun that pyro or not, I don't know if I can two shot that scout from mid range, I don't know if I can headshot that sniper. And that is stupid. The fact that you need the hat too ensure the class bonus is borderline money draining / premium mode. It's not just a cosmetic feature anymore. Paying for cosmetic = good, extra paying for gameplay = stupid. Don't get me wrong I love TF2, I think it's one of the best Strategic FPS's there is. It's the most fun I ever have had for 10 bucks, it's one of the most fun multiplayer games I ever played. However I think it's going to turn into an even bigger random fragfest since you can't adopt all the time. Dueling seems fun, paying for cosmetics is fine, new updates is good but not being able to adopt to game situations is stupid. If this is the way TF2 is going, if it's going to be random battles, I'm hoping LZ is going to support NS2, since I won't be playing pub TF2 that much. tl;dr Weapons and updates are nice, drop the bonusses.
I'm with keltsu on this one. i don't see anything wrong with the sets or the bonuses. as was already said, the bonuses might be cool, but usually they depend on losing something pretty important (like he said, what good is a scout without a scattergun). and the visibility issue? they HAVE to wear the hat, and since those hats arn't easy to come by, you can assume that 90% of the people wearing those specific hats have the weapons to go with them. and most of the looks of the new weapons are rather easy to spot or otherwise unimportant. dont tell me you can't instantly tell if a scout has a scattergun in hand or has a pistol and a white hat. the spy? the moment you actually see him it doesn't matter if he's got the set or not, you'll kill him anyway. it'd be much more important to know if he's got the deadringer or not. The sniper? that crocodile hat is a dead giveaway, and while you might not be able to headshot him, he can't headshot you either. pyro? might not be quite as obviuos if he's got the set, but the drawbacks of +10% vulerability and -20% flamedamage far outweigh the bonus of running faster in my opinion. and so on and so forth... the non-set items are much more useful and gamechanging (vita-saw, running gloves), but i see no one complaining about those. personally i'm just hoping for a small buff to the new flamethrower. apart from that i'm totally happy.
You can't, for example, tell if he has the milk and the pistol and the fish and the hat equipped. Don't forget these weapons are random drops / crafts as well. It's perfectly possible for people to have the hat but not the set. I wouldn't mind the set thing that much if somehow it shows that he has the set bonus or not. Also there should be 4 more "set's" coming. As I said before, to me information is everything. I want to plan accordingly and this set bonus just doesn't fit that playing style the way it is implemented right now. Since those are actually valid sidegrades. Natural Selection 2 Seems like the new sniper has a special feature. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouD1O9BlIUA[/youtube]
Anyone using the new sniper set would do better to play close quarters, you 'jarate' them with your gun, crit them with your new knife (deals full crits instead of mincrits) Plus you have the +25hp
you did whaaat?! oh well, have fun with your new stuff though! NS2! I'm going to craft the new pyro flamer. see it if it's a bit better with a shottie combo or with mah sapper's venchange..venceange..darnit i just wrote it perfectly, backspaced it and now i can't write it....hold on. vengeance.
When natural selection 2 comes out, let me know.. i'll whip up a server. It seems its a steam server and if it has linux binary's i'll support it. (next to what we have already)
The scouts shortstop is not actually a pistol as i though, but more of a weaker FAN with 4 shots, fires pretty quick, doesnt have knockback.
<3 Apparently you get some kind of special hat with a special effect from the crates. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1453520 Just hoping it doesn't effect fps too much. And I hope key's are actually a random drop instead of a must buy... Edit, Yay for money maker mode
you sir, get paid to much hahahaha :lol: i'm just going to wait for my weapons now haha (or craft my DUPS) not going to craft away my own weapons because when the time comes i want to use them i crafted them away most of the time haha (not that i'm going to use the direct shit any time soon tough... god i hate that sound haha)